1 00:00:02,230 --> 00:00:00,490 foreign 2 00:00:05,210 --> 00:00:02,240 [Music] 3 00:00:05,610 --> 00:00:05,220 Cahill and you're listening to that UFO 4 00:00:11,209 --> 00:00:05,620 podcast 5 00:00:15,709 --> 00:00:13,430 hi everyone and welcome to that UFO 6 00:00:17,450 --> 00:00:15,719 podcast as always my name is Andy and 7 00:00:19,010 --> 00:00:17,460 first off I want to say a big thank you 8 00:00:21,050 --> 00:00:19,020 to everyone who's joined up to the new 9 00:00:23,390 --> 00:00:21,060 Apple podcast subscriptions in the last 10 00:00:24,590 --> 00:00:23,400 month if you search the word premium on 11 00:00:26,330 --> 00:00:24,600 there you'll find there's exclusive 12 00:00:29,330 --> 00:00:26,340 content from the likes of Georgiana 13 00:00:31,370 --> 00:00:29,340 Prime bledso David Marler there's an AMA 14 00:00:33,049 --> 00:00:31,380 with myself and Dan and a lot more as 15 00:00:35,510 --> 00:00:33,059 well so do check that out there's a two 16 00:00:37,549 --> 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00:01:06,469 --> 00:01:04,860 thank you very much for joining us my 31 00:01:08,690 --> 00:01:06,479 interview with James Fox has been put 32 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:08,700 back by one week so I'll be speaking to 33 00:01:12,109 --> 00:01:10,080 James next week that's the week 34 00:01:13,190 --> 00:01:12,119 beginning the 5th of July AI so if 35 00:01:15,710 --> 00:01:13,200 you've sent in your listener questions 36 00:01:17,570 --> 00:01:15,720 I've still got all of those as well this 37 00:01:19,609 --> 00:01:17,580 week though my guest is a name that is 38 00:01:21,289 --> 00:01:19,619 relatively new to me she I recently 39 00:01:23,030 --> 00:01:21,299 watched her on Grant Cameron's YouTube 40 00:01:25,070 --> 00:01:23,040 channel and was fascinated by the 41 00:01:26,810 --> 00:01:25,080 discussion they were having she's also 42 00:01:29,149 --> 00:01:26,820 fresh off of an appearance at this 43 00:01:31,070 --> 00:01:29,159 year's virtual contact in the desert and 44 00:01:33,530 --> 00:01:31,080 a very welcome fresh face to the field 45 00:01:35,149 --> 00:01:33,540 as well Shoma is a lawyer based in 46 00:01:37,010 --> 00:01:35,159 Australia and she was born and raised in 47 00:01:39,050 --> 00:01:37,020 China which I'm very much looking 48 00:01:41,149 --> 00:01:39,060 forward to discussing the China UFO 49 00:01:43,969 --> 00:01:41,159 relationship among many other things 50 00:01:45,890 --> 00:01:43,979 ciao welcome to the podcast hi everyone 51 00:01:47,690 --> 00:01:45,900 my name is Xiao thanks so much for 52 00:01:50,810 --> 00:01:47,700 having me thanks Andy 53 00:01:52,609 --> 00:01:50,820 noise as a real pleasure and um I like 54 00:01:54,830 --> 00:01:52,619 your fresh take on a lot of things and 55 00:01:56,090 --> 00:01:54,840 again you're you're younger in this 56 00:01:57,770 --> 00:01:56,100 field and a lot of people who speak 57 00:01:59,330 --> 00:01:57,780 about the same sort of subjects as you 58 00:02:01,490 --> 00:01:59,340 which is great and it's great to have 59 00:02:03,649 --> 00:02:01,500 fresh faces and new people to talk to as 60 00:02:05,870 --> 00:02:03,659 well and especially coming from a point 61 00:02:07,730 --> 00:02:05,880 of view of having that Chinese Heritage 62 00:02:09,050 --> 00:02:07,740 and background gives you a lot of 63 00:02:11,750 --> 00:02:09,060 perspective that people are very 64 00:02:13,729 --> 00:02:11,760 interested in especially at the minute 65 00:02:15,530 --> 00:02:13,739 um just want you to start off those show 66 00:02:16,970 --> 00:02:15,540 can you start by giving the audience a 67 00:02:19,010 --> 00:02:16,980 little bit about yourself your 68 00:02:20,750 --> 00:02:19,020 background and what got you involved in 69 00:02:25,010 --> 00:02:20,760 the world of you know contact modalities 70 00:02:26,990 --> 00:02:25,020 and UFOs yeah sure so um as you know 71 00:02:30,710 --> 00:02:27,000 that I'm a Chinese I was born in China 72 00:02:32,390 --> 00:02:30,720 Shanghai so and and uh stay in China for 73 00:02:35,650 --> 00:02:32,400 quite a few years and then I went to 74 00:02:38,930 --> 00:02:35,660 Australia uh for high school and in uni 75 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:38,940 uh graduate from uni then got a 76 00:02:42,910 --> 00:02:40,560 practicing license so now I'm a 77 00:02:46,309 --> 00:02:42,920 practicing lawyer facing Sydney 78 00:02:48,350 --> 00:02:46,319 and how that's that's basically my 79 00:02:51,770 --> 00:02:48,360 single background so my parents are 80 00:02:54,170 --> 00:02:51,780 still in China just by myself 81 00:02:57,710 --> 00:02:54,180 um so how according to this field is 82 00:03:00,470 --> 00:02:57,720 back in 2012 you know I was traveled to 83 00:03:04,009 --> 00:03:00,480 the Brisbane office uh I joined a law 84 00:03:05,509 --> 00:03:04,019 firm so out of my office window I saw a 85 00:03:08,690 --> 00:03:05,519 UFO craft 86 00:03:10,729 --> 00:03:08,700 silvery color round four the most common 87 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:10,739 one that you normally can see from the 88 00:03:16,910 --> 00:03:14,400 YouTube channels so it's just really 89 00:03:19,550 --> 00:03:16,920 shocked me during that time because you 90 00:03:21,410 --> 00:03:19,560 know I was really newbie in the UFO 91 00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:21,420 Community it's like what's this what's 92 00:03:28,729 --> 00:03:24,900 this all about so this really the UFO 93 00:03:31,670 --> 00:03:28,739 sighting really challenged my Paradigm 94 00:03:35,270 --> 00:03:31,680 in terms of uh whether or not we really 95 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:35,280 live in these 3D realities 96 00:03:41,869 --> 00:03:37,260 um and then I start to look into the 97 00:03:43,850 --> 00:03:41,879 topic about UFOs aliens and implants and 98 00:03:45,649 --> 00:03:43,860 things like that 99 00:03:48,470 --> 00:03:45,659 um and then I came across a famous 100 00:03:50,990 --> 00:03:48,480 ufologist called Mary rodwell's YouTube 101 00:03:53,350 --> 00:03:51,000 channel and some of you may know that 102 00:03:56,930 --> 00:03:53,360 Mary is actually very famous ufologist 103 00:03:59,210 --> 00:03:56,940 and her message about you know the new 104 00:04:00,649 --> 00:03:59,220 incoming hybrid children's and 105 00:04:03,530 --> 00:04:00,659 everything really 106 00:04:05,750 --> 00:04:03,540 striking me a lot so and then that's 107 00:04:08,270 --> 00:04:05,760 sort of like initiated me into the 108 00:04:10,670 --> 00:04:08,280 ufology community so the first was 109 00:04:12,949 --> 00:04:10,680 through like UFO witnessing you know 110 00:04:15,410 --> 00:04:12,959 witnessing UFO craft and second was 111 00:04:17,569 --> 00:04:15,420 listening to quite a few like uh a 112 00:04:20,270 --> 00:04:17,579 YouTube as a channel and a presenters 113 00:04:23,629 --> 00:04:20,280 like Mary and like your platforms so 114 00:04:26,030 --> 00:04:23,639 that's how I got into it and later on a 115 00:04:28,249 --> 00:04:26,040 few years a mainly based in Australia 116 00:04:31,730 --> 00:04:28,259 you know getting contact with quite a 117 00:04:34,370 --> 00:04:31,740 few uh community members no quality 118 00:04:36,290 --> 00:04:34,380 information and what's funny is because 119 00:04:38,689 --> 00:04:36,300 I can speak Chinese 120 00:04:41,629 --> 00:04:38,699 and now got invited by quite a few 121 00:04:44,290 --> 00:04:41,639 Chinese uh uh like they got a quite a 122 00:04:46,730 --> 00:04:44,300 big uh similar to like a YouTube 123 00:04:48,350 --> 00:04:46,740 platforms you know the the one that you 124 00:04:50,870 --> 00:04:48,360 are having right now and like a great 125 00:04:52,030 --> 00:04:50,880 camera as well so they said look you can 126 00:04:54,830 --> 00:04:52,040 speak Chinese 127 00:04:56,990 --> 00:04:54,840 and we heard all the things about what's 128 00:04:59,749 --> 00:04:57,000 happening in Australia why don't you 129 00:05:02,450 --> 00:04:59,759 jump on my show and talk about it so I 130 00:05:05,390 --> 00:05:02,460 was like yeah for sure and that's how 131 00:05:06,350 --> 00:05:05,400 everything started I uh I did quite a 132 00:05:10,550 --> 00:05:06,360 few 133 00:05:13,310 --> 00:05:10,560 to do interviews in China so I was very 134 00:05:16,930 --> 00:05:13,320 outspoken that time they considered me 135 00:05:20,930 --> 00:05:16,940 I'm talking about and the um back in 136 00:05:23,870 --> 00:05:20,940 2017 they show even earlier so that time 137 00:05:26,510 --> 00:05:23,880 there are not many Chinese people who 138 00:05:30,469 --> 00:05:26,520 willing to come out with a real name 139 00:05:33,050 --> 00:05:30,479 real occupation real address saying that 140 00:05:35,450 --> 00:05:33,060 this has happened to me due to political 141 00:05:38,450 --> 00:05:35,460 control so that time was actually quite 142 00:05:39,950 --> 00:05:38,460 big hit in the Chinese ufology oh my God 143 00:05:41,689 --> 00:05:39,960 it's a Lady based in Sydney she's 144 00:05:44,810 --> 00:05:41,699 actually Chinese she's talking about 145 00:05:46,790 --> 00:05:44,820 this and after that I've received 146 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:46,800 hundreds of emails from the local 147 00:05:50,990 --> 00:05:48,900 Chinese saying oh my God the message you 148 00:05:53,210 --> 00:05:51,000 talk about is really resonates with me 149 00:05:55,430 --> 00:05:53,220 because the information I share is a 150 00:05:58,010 --> 00:05:55,440 very grass root level you know I uh 151 00:05:59,689 --> 00:05:58,020 witnessing a craft I had lucid dream I 152 00:06:01,550 --> 00:05:59,699 have adult body experience blah blah 153 00:06:03,170 --> 00:06:01,560 blah and things just become a bigger and 154 00:06:04,790 --> 00:06:03,180 bigger so that's basically the 155 00:06:07,909 --> 00:06:04,800 background information about me a 156 00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:07,919 Chinese came to Australia had a UFO 157 00:06:14,689 --> 00:06:11,280 witnessing encounters and gradually into 158 00:06:16,969 --> 00:06:14,699 the field so that's where I'm right now 159 00:06:18,830 --> 00:06:16,979 so yeah 160 00:06:20,870 --> 00:06:18,840 no that's great and we're going to get 161 00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:20,880 to talking about your experiences and 162 00:06:24,290 --> 00:06:22,560 some of that sort of stuff as well I 163 00:06:27,290 --> 00:06:24,300 want to talk though about about China 164 00:06:29,210 --> 00:06:27,300 and and UFOs and ufology 165 00:06:31,430 --> 00:06:29,220 um I I've got a friend who's Chinese and 166 00:06:34,249 --> 00:06:31,440 I asked him a couple of weeks ago just 167 00:06:36,650 --> 00:06:34,259 and he's older uh and I he's in his 50s 168 00:06:38,270 --> 00:06:36,660 and I asked about UFOs and aliens and 169 00:06:40,850 --> 00:06:38,280 you know do you talk about it and it was 170 00:06:43,129 --> 00:06:40,860 like uh not really you know growing up 171 00:06:45,830 --> 00:06:43,139 but they said to win your children you 172 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:45,840 know you know about aliens and but as 173 00:06:50,570 --> 00:06:47,280 you grow older it's not something the 174 00:06:52,969 --> 00:06:50,580 adults talk about now what does euphorge 175 00:06:55,189 --> 00:06:52,979 look like in China I know I've heard you 176 00:06:57,290 --> 00:06:55,199 say it's it's relatively new and a bit 177 00:07:00,110 --> 00:06:57,300 behind where the West is in terms of 178 00:07:02,510 --> 00:07:00,120 conversation but what is it like growing 179 00:07:04,730 --> 00:07:02,520 up you know as a as a child then as you 180 00:07:06,710 --> 00:07:04,740 hit teenage years and then older how 181 00:07:10,490 --> 00:07:06,720 does that conversation change 182 00:07:13,189 --> 00:07:10,500 thank you so when I was little I always 183 00:07:16,129 --> 00:07:13,199 show the interest into like alternative 184 00:07:17,870 --> 00:07:16,139 signs not just for the ufology I guess 185 00:07:21,050 --> 00:07:17,880 for the younger generation like my age 186 00:07:22,790 --> 00:07:21,060 like 35-ish so when we grow up there are 187 00:07:25,189 --> 00:07:22,800 a lot of younger generation into 188 00:07:28,490 --> 00:07:25,199 alternative science including like 189 00:07:30,770 --> 00:07:28,500 ufology you know like aliens and all 190 00:07:33,830 --> 00:07:30,780 sorts of counter modalities so during 191 00:07:35,409 --> 00:07:33,840 that time talking about back in 80s or 192 00:07:38,330 --> 00:07:35,419 90s 193 00:07:39,890 --> 00:07:38,340 UFO Community is so new I don't think 194 00:07:42,170 --> 00:07:39,900 there's a such thing as a UFO community 195 00:07:44,270 --> 00:07:42,180 that time so how people getting those 196 00:07:46,490 --> 00:07:44,280 information 197 00:07:49,189 --> 00:07:46,500 um it's actually prior to internet you 198 00:07:51,710 --> 00:07:49,199 know period so we normally buy those 199 00:07:54,650 --> 00:07:51,720 like UFO books you know those like books 200 00:07:56,629 --> 00:07:54,660 you can buy and mainly is about UFO 201 00:07:58,490 --> 00:07:56,639 phenomena you know it was like a Philly 202 00:08:00,529 --> 00:07:58,500 mile it was pretty popular that time 203 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:00,539 with the Pleiadians the Billy Maya 204 00:08:05,270 --> 00:08:03,660 stories and you know Adam I can't 205 00:08:08,029 --> 00:08:05,280 remember Adam's last name but it's a 206 00:08:10,610 --> 00:08:08,039 very popular case about venetians in an 207 00:08:12,469 --> 00:08:10,620 alien from Venus so we normally get 208 00:08:15,710 --> 00:08:12,479 those information not from the internet 209 00:08:18,830 --> 00:08:15,720 that time but from those books and 210 00:08:22,430 --> 00:08:18,840 gradually when the internet sort of you 211 00:08:27,290 --> 00:08:22,440 know became popular around 90ish people 212 00:08:29,990 --> 00:08:27,300 start to get some information about UFO 213 00:08:32,630 --> 00:08:30,000 community in the western world like for 214 00:08:35,570 --> 00:08:32,640 example like your YouTube videos what 215 00:08:38,570 --> 00:08:35,580 they do is they copy it they put in the 216 00:08:41,449 --> 00:08:38,580 Chinese subtitle underneath and they put 217 00:08:43,610 --> 00:08:41,459 in a Chinese sort of like uh a main 218 00:08:45,769 --> 00:08:43,620 internet website so that people can view 219 00:08:47,509 --> 00:08:45,779 it so 220 00:08:52,009 --> 00:08:47,519 a lot of 221 00:08:55,190 --> 00:08:52,019 information are from the Western world 222 00:08:57,410 --> 00:08:55,200 there's a very little information from 223 00:08:59,750 --> 00:08:57,420 China there are quite a few very famous 224 00:09:01,790 --> 00:08:59,760 cases which we are I'm more than happy 225 00:09:04,190 --> 00:09:01,800 to dive into deeply later on regarding 226 00:09:07,850 --> 00:09:04,200 you know a few famous cases in China but 227 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:07,860 that's about it the true UFO Community 228 00:09:15,470 --> 00:09:10,800 boom was happened like a few years ago I 229 00:09:18,350 --> 00:09:15,480 would say around 2010 to 2020 in those 230 00:09:20,570 --> 00:09:18,360 like 10 years uh where you're ceasing 231 00:09:24,290 --> 00:09:20,580 starting to picking up and even that's 232 00:09:26,990 --> 00:09:24,300 the case China from my perspective are 233 00:09:30,170 --> 00:09:27,000 still at least 30 years behind the 234 00:09:32,269 --> 00:09:30,180 Western ufology Community due to you 235 00:09:34,790 --> 00:09:32,279 know lack of information lack of 236 00:09:38,389 --> 00:09:34,800 disclosure movement especially for the 237 00:09:40,970 --> 00:09:38,399 political control you know so uh that's 238 00:09:42,230 --> 00:09:40,980 the main issue so some of the listeners 239 00:09:44,329 --> 00:09:42,240 might not be aware of the difference 240 00:09:46,070 --> 00:09:44,339 between how the internet works in the 241 00:09:47,930 --> 00:09:46,080 west where it's very much free and 242 00:09:50,329 --> 00:09:47,940 unrestricted and you can just go on any 243 00:09:51,949 --> 00:09:50,339 website you want and China do you want 244 00:09:53,690 --> 00:09:51,959 to talk a little bit a little bit about 245 00:09:55,670 --> 00:09:53,700 how that's very different 246 00:09:57,889 --> 00:09:55,680 yeah so what happened to Chinese for 247 00:10:01,190 --> 00:09:57,899 some people probably doesn't know we 248 00:10:04,150 --> 00:10:01,200 have it's called the internet firewall 249 00:10:06,530 --> 00:10:04,160 between China and the rest of the world 250 00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:06,540 that means 251 00:10:09,829 --> 00:10:07,200 um 252 00:10:12,710 --> 00:10:09,839 you can't use Google you can't use 253 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:12,720 Facebook no Google no Facebook no 254 00:10:18,710 --> 00:10:16,500 YouTube no WhatsApp no Facebook in China 255 00:10:20,690 --> 00:10:18,720 everything is literally banned so 256 00:10:24,050 --> 00:10:20,700 basically if you carry your iPhone or 257 00:10:27,889 --> 00:10:24,060 laptop to China all those major websites 258 00:10:30,350 --> 00:10:27,899 cannot be used in China instead you need 259 00:10:32,690 --> 00:10:30,360 to download our app called VPN in order 260 00:10:34,790 --> 00:10:32,700 to jump the file but VPN is really 261 00:10:37,310 --> 00:10:34,800 difficult to get right now so what I'm 262 00:10:40,190 --> 00:10:37,320 saying to the people is uh it's it's the 263 00:10:42,470 --> 00:10:40,200 information does not flow freely like 264 00:10:45,170 --> 00:10:42,480 you know you can chip the YouTube in UK 265 00:10:48,650 --> 00:10:45,180 or in Netherlands whatever in China is a 266 00:10:51,410 --> 00:10:48,660 total isolation in terms of uh those 267 00:10:53,449 --> 00:10:51,420 media information but we do have the 268 00:10:55,370 --> 00:10:53,459 equivalent softwares and website like 269 00:10:57,670 --> 00:10:55,380 you know we don't have Facebook but we 270 00:11:00,949 --> 00:10:57,680 have we have a very similar 271 00:11:04,310 --> 00:11:00,959 equivalent sort of Facebook dishes 272 00:11:08,930 --> 00:11:04,320 social media websites and same as can I 273 00:11:10,970 --> 00:11:08,940 just ask are Chinese people aware of the 274 00:11:12,650 --> 00:11:10,980 fact they have these separate softwares 275 00:11:14,930 --> 00:11:12,660 which are very much able to be I'm sure 276 00:11:16,370 --> 00:11:14,940 controlled and monitored I mean let's be 277 00:11:18,050 --> 00:11:16,380 fair I'm sure everything in the west is 278 00:11:19,730 --> 00:11:18,060 exactly the same just to a different 279 00:11:22,730 --> 00:11:19,740 extent it's controlled and monitored 280 00:11:24,530 --> 00:11:22,740 anyway but are people in China okay with 281 00:11:26,509 --> 00:11:24,540 this that they have their own bubble 282 00:11:28,430 --> 00:11:26,519 almost of of social media and 283 00:11:30,829 --> 00:11:28,440 interaction or would they like that 284 00:11:34,370 --> 00:11:30,839 access to what the West has as well 285 00:11:36,650 --> 00:11:34,380 yeah look it's uh it's beyond what we 286 00:11:38,630 --> 00:11:36,660 can control it out of our control as a 287 00:11:41,509 --> 00:11:38,640 civilian level it's like 288 00:11:45,230 --> 00:11:41,519 you just have to come to accept to the 289 00:11:48,110 --> 00:11:45,240 reality that this is what's happening in 290 00:11:50,030 --> 00:11:48,120 China what could you do like to be 291 00:11:51,530 --> 00:11:50,040 honest you know it's in the CCP control 292 00:11:53,810 --> 00:11:51,540 so uh 293 00:11:57,710 --> 00:11:53,820 that's the reality that we have to leave 294 00:11:59,949 --> 00:11:57,720 people fully aware consciously 100 aware 295 00:12:03,410 --> 00:11:59,959 that they can't jump the firewall 296 00:12:05,449 --> 00:12:03,420 uh that's that's that's what they can do 297 00:12:08,690 --> 00:12:05,459 like they just review the Chinese news I 298 00:12:11,090 --> 00:12:08,700 guess a lot of news in China actually 299 00:12:13,069 --> 00:12:11,100 um uh are from the Western world but 300 00:12:15,650 --> 00:12:13,079 certain information can be you know 301 00:12:16,910 --> 00:12:15,660 added to the bid so uh 302 00:12:18,949 --> 00:12:16,920 um that's what's happening in China 303 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:18,959 right now 304 00:12:22,910 --> 00:12:20,880 and you know what it's the same in the 305 00:12:24,829 --> 00:12:22,920 west as well you can't see that in the 306 00:12:26,449 --> 00:12:24,839 west all the news is truthful and it's 307 00:12:29,150 --> 00:12:26,459 not edited and doesn't have a narrative 308 00:12:30,769 --> 00:12:29,160 so it's it's very much just a similar 309 00:12:32,210 --> 00:12:30,779 theme throughout the world as well but 310 00:12:33,910 --> 00:12:32,220 given what we're going to be talking 311 00:12:36,710 --> 00:12:33,920 about in terms of you know other 312 00:12:39,290 --> 00:12:36,720 dimensions and entities it's it sounds 313 00:12:40,910 --> 00:12:39,300 so petty and silly doesn't it that they 314 00:12:43,069 --> 00:12:40,920 have all these restrictions around the 315 00:12:45,650 --> 00:12:43,079 world and there's the potential to have 316 00:12:46,850 --> 00:12:45,660 so much more as a species and and 317 00:12:48,889 --> 00:12:46,860 hopefully that'll that'll change 318 00:12:51,410 --> 00:12:48,899 eventually I want to know though this is 319 00:12:53,990 --> 00:12:51,420 something that's interested me now I've 320 00:12:56,810 --> 00:12:54,000 heard in in China particularly when it 321 00:12:58,790 --> 00:12:56,820 comes to like Hollywood and movies there 322 00:13:01,730 --> 00:12:58,800 can be some quite strict controls on 323 00:13:03,889 --> 00:13:01,740 those as well including some paranormal 324 00:13:06,050 --> 00:13:03,899 movies if there's an ending in this tell 325 00:13:08,030 --> 00:13:06,060 me if this is true if there's an ending 326 00:13:10,250 --> 00:13:08,040 of a movie that turns out to be it's 327 00:13:11,690 --> 00:13:10,260 paranormal or a ghost that will be 328 00:13:13,610 --> 00:13:11,700 changed and edited for the Chinese 329 00:13:15,650 --> 00:13:13,620 audience is that correct 330 00:13:17,090 --> 00:13:15,660 that's actually quite true you are 331 00:13:19,850 --> 00:13:17,100 correct so what happened is everything 332 00:13:22,370 --> 00:13:19,860 in China you know follow the political 333 00:13:25,970 --> 00:13:22,380 control you know like it's from the um 334 00:13:28,550 --> 00:13:25,980 up to to down sort of like flow so 335 00:13:31,670 --> 00:13:28,560 regarding the movies and all those books 336 00:13:34,030 --> 00:13:31,680 it depends in what period so if we're 337 00:13:39,230 --> 00:13:34,040 talking about back in 338 00:13:41,569 --> 00:13:39,240 2010 to 2015 and it's relatively open so 339 00:13:43,670 --> 00:13:41,579 you get those like a ufology like UFO 340 00:13:46,449 --> 00:13:43,680 aliens and Hollywood movies it's all 341 00:13:48,889 --> 00:13:46,459 good and the ghosts things like that but 342 00:13:52,129 --> 00:13:48,899 especially in the last two to three 343 00:13:54,410 --> 00:13:52,139 years due to political control those 344 00:13:57,410 --> 00:13:54,420 information not be considered as a 345 00:13:59,870 --> 00:13:57,420 sensitive information or even taboo so 346 00:14:02,750 --> 00:13:59,880 that means uh that's what I heard from 347 00:14:05,090 --> 00:14:02,760 inside in the movie industry um I can't 348 00:14:07,730 --> 00:14:05,100 be 100 for sure but I'm pretty sure 349 00:14:10,430 --> 00:14:07,740 that's true so what he say is before you 350 00:14:12,050 --> 00:14:10,440 know you got those like a ghost related 351 00:14:13,550 --> 00:14:12,060 movies or something like a thriller 352 00:14:17,449 --> 00:14:13,560 movie but now those have become 353 00:14:19,550 --> 00:14:17,459 considered as Supernatural so in the 354 00:14:23,870 --> 00:14:19,560 last few years they seems like have a 355 00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:23,880 more tightened screening process for you 356 00:14:29,629 --> 00:14:27,360 know uh Supernaturals or like vampires 357 00:14:31,910 --> 00:14:29,639 or girls and including Alien movies so 358 00:14:33,650 --> 00:14:31,920 you are correct about that but it's only 359 00:14:36,410 --> 00:14:33,660 happening in the last two to three weeks 360 00:14:39,050 --> 00:14:36,420 uh two to three years 361 00:14:40,910 --> 00:14:39,060 sure and what about on the news given 362 00:14:43,310 --> 00:14:40,920 especially in the last year in the 363 00:14:45,410 --> 00:14:43,320 United States the the mainstream media 364 00:14:47,689 --> 00:14:45,420 has really picked up on the UFO topic 365 00:14:50,509 --> 00:14:47,699 just as we speak in the last few days 366 00:14:53,990 --> 00:14:50,519 TMZ has has put a rather mainstream 367 00:14:56,509 --> 00:14:54,000 piece on UFOs Discovery Channel hosted a 368 00:14:59,389 --> 00:14:56,519 live panel last night and in a few weeks 369 00:15:01,850 --> 00:14:59,399 time HBO Max has JJ Abrams famous 370 00:15:05,810 --> 00:15:01,860 director doing a four-part Docker series 371 00:15:09,290 --> 00:15:05,820 on UFOs as well as that kind of content 372 00:15:11,509 --> 00:15:09,300 going to make the news in China that the 373 00:15:14,750 --> 00:15:11,519 US is having this sort of conversation 374 00:15:16,370 --> 00:15:14,760 openly about UFOs especially at a 375 00:15:19,189 --> 00:15:16,380 government level does that does that 376 00:15:26,750 --> 00:15:19,199 resonate in China 377 00:15:30,949 --> 00:15:28,250 City Community 378 00:15:32,750 --> 00:15:30,959 but doesn't really heed the mainstream 379 00:15:34,670 --> 00:15:32,760 media that much 380 00:15:36,710 --> 00:15:34,680 that's what I noticed because I went to 381 00:15:39,710 --> 00:15:36,720 the Chinese website a few days ago to 382 00:15:42,650 --> 00:15:39,720 check the major websites and the 383 00:15:45,230 --> 00:15:42,660 internet and even use they're a bit of 384 00:15:47,449 --> 00:15:45,240 nation but not much but the news 385 00:15:49,850 --> 00:15:47,459 actually spread around in our Chinese 386 00:15:51,710 --> 00:15:49,860 ecology Community really well people 387 00:15:55,069 --> 00:15:51,720 have a high expectation about what's 388 00:15:56,930 --> 00:15:55,079 going to be released so yes and no I 389 00:16:00,470 --> 00:15:56,940 guess not for the mainstream media in 390 00:16:03,889 --> 00:16:00,480 China but it's commonly widely accepted 391 00:16:05,810 --> 00:16:03,899 in the Chinese ufology community 392 00:16:07,970 --> 00:16:05,820 and you know what that makes sense given 393 00:16:09,650 --> 00:16:07,980 you said that you feel that about 30 394 00:16:12,050 --> 00:16:09,660 years behind and having that 395 00:16:14,810 --> 00:16:12,060 conversation that's probably where 396 00:16:16,370 --> 00:16:14,820 things were in the states in the UK and 397 00:16:18,350 --> 00:16:16,380 Europe and the rest of the world 30 398 00:16:21,050 --> 00:16:18,360 years ago that it was just that smaller 399 00:16:23,449 --> 00:16:21,060 community so it it's probably following 400 00:16:25,129 --> 00:16:23,459 a similar timeline but maybe things will 401 00:16:27,110 --> 00:16:25,139 speed up given what's happening I want 402 00:16:30,110 --> 00:16:27,120 to go back out to what you said about 403 00:16:32,329 --> 00:16:30,120 famous cases in China again in the west 404 00:16:35,329 --> 00:16:32,339 Roswell is the case everyone would talk 405 00:16:38,930 --> 00:16:35,339 about first question is Roswell well 406 00:16:41,509 --> 00:16:38,940 known in China as an event and I'll let 407 00:16:43,970 --> 00:16:41,519 you come in on that one first year yes 408 00:16:46,610 --> 00:16:43,980 you're right Andy so Roswell case is 409 00:16:49,490 --> 00:16:46,620 actually very famous in China so for any 410 00:16:52,610 --> 00:16:49,500 Chinese who just got into the ufology 411 00:16:55,009 --> 00:16:52,620 community in China uh literally 99 412 00:16:56,449 --> 00:16:55,019 people heard about that you you know 413 00:16:58,970 --> 00:16:56,459 Roswell case 414 00:17:01,670 --> 00:16:58,980 and that's I would say the most popular 415 00:17:04,370 --> 00:17:01,680 case and also the what's that called the 416 00:17:07,789 --> 00:17:04,380 anybody who sorry maybe called the wrong 417 00:17:14,770 --> 00:17:07,799 name it's a very famous case about uh 418 00:17:20,390 --> 00:17:17,809 is a relative of 419 00:17:23,150 --> 00:17:20,400 um I think one of the uh 420 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:23,160 there are weaknesses so she may able to 421 00:17:28,189 --> 00:17:24,720 elaborate well that case is actually 422 00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:28,199 quite famous in China too and Billy Maya 423 00:17:33,289 --> 00:17:30,480 used to be really insanely instantly 424 00:17:35,390 --> 00:17:33,299 crazily popular in China especially in 425 00:17:37,070 --> 00:17:35,400 the community everybody following that 426 00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:37,080 news 427 00:17:41,510 --> 00:17:39,840 um but it's died down a bit 428 00:17:43,250 --> 00:17:41,520 so whatever is popular in the western 429 00:17:46,250 --> 00:17:43,260 world and the it's actually quite 430 00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:46,260 popular in China Chinese Community like 431 00:17:51,650 --> 00:17:50,160 you know curry good and you know quite a 432 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:51,660 few very famous people like a grand 433 00:17:56,510 --> 00:17:54,000 camera or others they all heard about 434 00:17:58,430 --> 00:17:56,520 those major players in the field uh 435 00:18:00,049 --> 00:17:58,440 regardless everybody's view about 436 00:18:01,370 --> 00:18:00,059 certain people you know some people may 437 00:18:03,289 --> 00:18:01,380 like them some people don't like it 438 00:18:04,610 --> 00:18:03,299 though it doesn't matter but those are 439 00:18:08,270 --> 00:18:04,620 the famous figures in the Western 440 00:18:11,810 --> 00:18:08,280 countries but they also very uh well 441 00:18:15,710 --> 00:18:13,909 okay I'm shooting off your listeners 442 00:18:19,370 --> 00:18:15,720 winced when you said Corey good because 443 00:18:20,990 --> 00:18:19,380 he's very divisive very very divisive 444 00:18:22,909 --> 00:18:21,000 um but like you say some some people 445 00:18:25,850 --> 00:18:22,919 like and that's that's up to them and 446 00:18:28,310 --> 00:18:25,860 but many of us are very wary of of Mr 447 00:18:30,710 --> 00:18:28,320 good and what he he peddles 448 00:18:32,690 --> 00:18:30,720 um but I do want to follow up on you 449 00:18:36,289 --> 00:18:32,700 mentioned there are famous cases within 450 00:18:38,630 --> 00:18:36,299 China what would be China's Roswell if 451 00:18:42,350 --> 00:18:38,640 you have the same sort of case 452 00:18:44,750 --> 00:18:42,360 there are quite a few uh famous cases in 453 00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:44,760 China One That I Want to mention is 454 00:18:49,909 --> 00:18:47,760 called the Phoenix Mountain case I think 455 00:18:51,650 --> 00:18:49,919 happened quite a few years ago so what 456 00:18:55,490 --> 00:18:51,660 happened for the Phoenix Mountain case 457 00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:55,500 in China was that there was a farmer he 458 00:19:00,110 --> 00:18:57,600 went with his friend or something they 459 00:19:03,529 --> 00:19:00,120 went to the con Phoenix mountains or 460 00:19:06,789 --> 00:19:03,539 Phoenix Mountain on top of the hill he 461 00:19:09,529 --> 00:19:06,799 saw a UFO crop landed on that mountain 462 00:19:11,270 --> 00:19:09,539 so and they said what is this so they 463 00:19:13,970 --> 00:19:11,280 try to approach but when they try to 464 00:19:17,210 --> 00:19:13,980 approach the craft they hear those like 465 00:19:18,590 --> 00:19:17,220 very noisy sound or like a low Vibra I 466 00:19:21,710 --> 00:19:18,600 don't know some kind of vibration sound 467 00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:21,720 and he just lost conscious the next 468 00:19:26,570 --> 00:19:23,760 thing he noticed that he's in the craft 469 00:19:28,850 --> 00:19:26,580 and the bean told him that somehow he 470 00:19:30,890 --> 00:19:28,860 had intimacy with a female alien 471 00:19:34,430 --> 00:19:30,900 something like that and the being told 472 00:19:38,029 --> 00:19:34,440 him that 20 years later we will have a 473 00:19:39,250 --> 00:19:38,039 hyper child whose father is a Chinese 474 00:19:43,150 --> 00:19:39,260 farmer 475 00:19:46,370 --> 00:19:43,160 so why this case became very famous 476 00:19:47,409 --> 00:19:46,380 because there was a witness right next 477 00:19:50,510 --> 00:19:47,419 to him 478 00:19:53,690 --> 00:19:50,520 and uh he claimed that he have a hyper 479 00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:53,700 child and there was a UFO landing so 480 00:20:01,730 --> 00:19:57,360 those are the key words he the media UFO 481 00:20:04,070 --> 00:20:01,740 landing aliens and hypertrout with 482 00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:04,080 aliens so that case became very famous 483 00:20:08,750 --> 00:20:06,720 and I I could be wrong I think he 484 00:20:11,330 --> 00:20:08,760 mentioned that he did some kind of lie 485 00:20:14,029 --> 00:20:11,340 like some kind of test and he passed the 486 00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:14,039 test so that makes his words really 487 00:20:19,850 --> 00:20:16,320 credible and even the local Authority 488 00:20:22,370 --> 00:20:19,860 and they did investigation into the 489 00:20:24,830 --> 00:20:22,380 matter and of course without no surprise 490 00:20:26,930 --> 00:20:24,840 they they reticued it it's just it's 491 00:20:29,570 --> 00:20:26,940 it's not you know standard 492 00:20:32,330 --> 00:20:29,580 disinformation but that's one of the 493 00:20:33,470 --> 00:20:32,340 major cases in China but I was going to 494 00:20:35,930 --> 00:20:33,480 say it's really interesting it sounds 495 00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:35,940 very similar to The Calvin Parker case 496 00:20:40,250 --> 00:20:38,400 you know Pascagoula where he had an 497 00:20:42,529 --> 00:20:40,260 abduction experience you know with a 498 00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:42,539 friend and there was no intimacy as such 499 00:20:46,610 --> 00:20:44,400 at that point but they were experimented 500 00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:46,620 on and that has still become a very 501 00:20:50,270 --> 00:20:48,480 famous case to today so that is really 502 00:20:53,090 --> 00:20:50,280 interesting what about is there anything 503 00:20:55,850 --> 00:20:53,100 from a military point of view like crash 504 00:20:57,470 --> 00:20:55,860 retrievals anything like that that comes 505 00:20:58,610 --> 00:20:57,480 up or again anything else you want to 506 00:21:00,890 --> 00:20:58,620 discuss 507 00:21:03,289 --> 00:21:00,900 there is a crush for true it's going to 508 00:21:05,570 --> 00:21:03,299 be related to my second case 509 00:21:07,130 --> 00:21:05,580 for the second case that's what I heard 510 00:21:10,430 --> 00:21:07,140 is 511 00:21:14,029 --> 00:21:10,440 um back in 90s uh there was like a heavy 512 00:21:15,890 --> 00:21:14,039 rainy day and a lightning strike uh a 513 00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:15,900 smaller UFO craft 514 00:21:22,730 --> 00:21:19,440 so according to the weakness the crop 515 00:21:25,789 --> 00:21:22,740 isn't actually not too big sort of like 516 00:21:29,149 --> 00:21:25,799 two meters something bigger than that 517 00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:29,159 really can be smaller craft and the crop 518 00:21:36,590 --> 00:21:33,600 actually crashed into the backyard of 519 00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:36,600 some kind of the military Basin or 520 00:21:42,890 --> 00:21:39,840 something like that and there were two 521 00:21:45,590 --> 00:21:42,900 aliens found one is dead the other was 522 00:21:47,810 --> 00:21:45,600 heavily injured during the midnight when 523 00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:47,820 it happened and they reckon that due to 524 00:21:53,149 --> 00:21:50,400 the lightning strike maybe the UFO loss 525 00:21:55,210 --> 00:21:53,159 kind of control so crashed into the site 526 00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:55,220 and what they found about that 527 00:22:01,370 --> 00:21:58,559 extraterrestrials is that that being is 528 00:22:03,770 --> 00:22:01,380 not very tall like maybe 1.5 meters tall 529 00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:03,780 and they look like a mouse you know 530 00:22:08,770 --> 00:22:06,240 those amounts like they got the fur sort 531 00:22:12,770 --> 00:22:08,780 of looking so it's more like a smaller 532 00:22:15,649 --> 00:22:12,780 animal dish looking beings 533 00:22:17,870 --> 00:22:15,659 um so that's what witness said and then 534 00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:17,880 the government had a you know the craft 535 00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:21,360 retrieval closed down the area told 536 00:22:26,510 --> 00:22:24,720 everyone not to talk about that case 537 00:22:28,250 --> 00:22:26,520 um yeah I still have the contact detail 538 00:22:30,049 --> 00:22:28,260 of those people just for your own info 539 00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:30,059 if you and your viewers will be 540 00:22:34,190 --> 00:22:31,919 interested I'm more than happy to pass 541 00:22:35,930 --> 00:22:34,200 on their contact details to you and 542 00:22:38,029 --> 00:22:35,940 maybe you can interview them too you 543 00:22:41,870 --> 00:22:38,039 know they they can dive into deeper 544 00:22:44,810 --> 00:22:41,880 about what happened in those cases and 545 00:22:46,850 --> 00:22:44,820 how the government reaction towards that 546 00:22:48,830 --> 00:22:46,860 and that's the first time I think I've 547 00:22:52,010 --> 00:22:48,840 heard that description of beings being 548 00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:52,020 most like you hear reptilian and lizards 549 00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:54,960 and you hear the Grays nordics but that 550 00:22:58,669 --> 00:22:56,880 sort of but again it can all be 551 00:23:00,590 --> 00:22:58,679 perception and what they look like at 552 00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:00,600 the time but you know I suppose most 553 00:23:04,669 --> 00:23:02,400 like we still have the big eyes and 554 00:23:06,289 --> 00:23:04,679 those kind of features so yeah really 555 00:23:08,210 --> 00:23:06,299 interesting description as well and I'll 556 00:23:10,970 --> 00:23:08,220 get those details off you too thank you 557 00:23:12,590 --> 00:23:10,980 and you mentioned the the craft being 558 00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:12,600 potentially brought down by a lightning 559 00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,860 and we've heard that's been the case 560 00:23:18,010 --> 00:23:16,080 several times potentially especially 561 00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:18,020 with things like Roswell that 562 00:23:23,690 --> 00:23:21,120 electromagnetic storms or EMP policies 563 00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:23,700 can potentially 564 00:23:28,010 --> 00:23:25,440 um bring these crafts down and cause 565 00:23:30,230 --> 00:23:28,020 issues with their systems have you ever 566 00:23:32,210 --> 00:23:30,240 heard of the the Chinese military ever 567 00:23:33,950 --> 00:23:32,220 trying to engage any of these objects 568 00:23:37,850 --> 00:23:33,960 themselves 569 00:23:40,490 --> 00:23:37,860 uh look I won't be surprised that they 570 00:23:43,250 --> 00:23:40,500 have some kind of interaction with those 571 00:23:46,010 --> 00:23:43,260 Beams I don't know which specific type 572 00:23:48,529 --> 00:23:46,020 but your question actually really great 573 00:23:52,190 --> 00:23:48,539 leads to the third case which is my 574 00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:52,200 favorite case it's called the xiaoshan 575 00:23:55,310 --> 00:23:54,240 airport it's actually translated as like 576 00:25:00,890 --> 00:23:55,320 a 577 00:25:03,470 --> 00:25:00,900 colors 578 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:03,480 um yeah that's that's the crop people 579 00:25:07,730 --> 00:25:05,760 witnessing and according to so many 580 00:25:10,370 --> 00:25:07,740 witnesses because that's just all over 581 00:25:13,970 --> 00:25:10,380 the place during that time and 582 00:25:16,850 --> 00:25:13,980 they measure that crop should have at 583 00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:16,860 least a few hundred meters in lens so 584 00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:19,260 it's actually quite big craft and that 585 00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:21,600 craft there are different layers of you 586 00:25:26,029 --> 00:25:24,000 know the information just for what's 587 00:25:28,490 --> 00:25:26,039 actually released on the newspaper they 588 00:25:31,370 --> 00:25:28,500 see the craft you know hovering around 589 00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:31,380 the airport and cost the entire airport 590 00:25:36,409 --> 00:25:33,600 to shut down that's what's being 591 00:25:38,990 --> 00:25:36,419 released but in fat is the second layers 592 00:25:41,810 --> 00:25:39,000 the second layers is for the people who 593 00:25:43,850 --> 00:25:41,820 actually at the airport at that time 594 00:25:46,029 --> 00:25:43,860 remember there's so many passengers 595 00:25:50,029 --> 00:25:46,039 we're talking about at that airport 596 00:25:53,930 --> 00:25:50,039 according to them the craft as a matter 597 00:25:55,850 --> 00:25:53,940 of fact landed in the airport but that 598 00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:55,860 information was actually classified 599 00:26:00,430 --> 00:25:58,559 confidential information 600 00:26:02,930 --> 00:26:00,440 um only for the people who know you know 601 00:26:04,970 --> 00:26:02,940 that's very interesting but people who 602 00:26:07,549 --> 00:26:04,980 actually know that those information are 603 00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:07,559 very fear to come out because you know 604 00:26:10,370 --> 00:26:08,940 they're based in China they don't want 605 00:26:13,850 --> 00:26:10,380 to cause any trouble 606 00:26:16,010 --> 00:26:13,860 uh what I also heard is a third layer of 607 00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:16,020 the trees which is the really Insider 608 00:26:20,510 --> 00:26:18,600 but I need to be very cautious and about 609 00:26:22,190 --> 00:26:20,520 how much I can discuss because I don't 610 00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:22,200 want to get into trouble you know as I'm 611 00:26:28,130 --> 00:26:24,720 trying to have to watch out 612 00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:28,140 um without getting too too deeply too 613 00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:29,840 much sensitive information 614 00:26:36,169 --> 00:26:32,640 what I heard 615 00:26:39,769 --> 00:26:36,179 um I I tend to believe that not only the 616 00:26:45,169 --> 00:26:39,779 craft landed but also the being my came 617 00:26:48,830 --> 00:26:45,179 out of the crowd and very likely uh uh 618 00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:48,840 they may come to say from my perspective 619 00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:50,240 you know 620 00:26:56,570 --> 00:26:53,279 it might be possible that you have some 621 00:26:59,169 --> 00:26:56,580 kind of treaty with the local government 622 00:27:02,330 --> 00:26:59,179 so I'm saying that 623 00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,340 it's not always the U.S and all the news 624 00:27:06,350 --> 00:27:04,320 about U.S think about it if it's Global 625 00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:06,360 phenomena I can't be trying to just do 626 00:27:10,490 --> 00:27:08,400 nothing you know they might have some 627 00:27:12,289 --> 00:27:10,500 kind of like treaty with those opinions 628 00:27:14,930 --> 00:27:12,299 we don't know the specific information 629 00:27:16,490 --> 00:27:14,940 about the Treaty and even if I know I'd 630 00:27:19,250 --> 00:27:16,500 rather not to talk about because I was 631 00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:19,260 getting me into trouble but rather I 632 00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:22,080 would highly encourage those people as 633 00:27:29,090 --> 00:27:25,200 called insiders who actually really know 634 00:27:31,610 --> 00:27:29,100 what's going on to come out to share 635 00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:31,620 with people so that's how much I want to 636 00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:35,039 talk about that case so yeah 637 00:27:38,570 --> 00:27:37,200 yeah that's fascinating and that's one 638 00:27:40,010 --> 00:27:38,580 that I think people love seeing the 639 00:27:41,630 --> 00:27:40,020 picture of but it shows you the craft 640 00:27:43,070 --> 00:27:41,640 and again if you saw it on YouTube I've 641 00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:43,080 done a very quick sketch as you were 642 00:27:47,090 --> 00:27:44,760 talking about it because it's it's one 643 00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:47,100 that's kind of burned into my memory 644 00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:49,679 um I think those beings are very smart 645 00:27:55,549 --> 00:27:52,620 because they are not so secretively 646 00:27:58,430 --> 00:27:55,559 landed in the airport they make all the 647 00:28:00,350 --> 00:27:58,440 news because when they try to land they 648 00:28:02,690 --> 00:28:00,360 try to zoom in you know they got into 649 00:28:04,909 --> 00:28:02,700 the airport but remember there are so 650 00:28:08,690 --> 00:28:04,919 many like in China it's very population 651 00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:08,700 dense area the residents in those 652 00:28:14,210 --> 00:28:11,520 suburbs causes such a huge crowd they 653 00:28:16,010 --> 00:28:14,220 all can see what's in the sky so that's 654 00:28:18,769 --> 00:28:16,020 why they're so hard for the government 655 00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:18,779 to show them down because it's just so 656 00:28:24,110 --> 00:28:21,840 well known so many people Witnesses you 657 00:28:26,990 --> 00:28:24,120 know the case but what people doesn't 658 00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:27,000 know is about what the Insiders could 659 00:28:31,130 --> 00:28:29,279 share but I'm not Insider but I'm saying 660 00:28:33,049 --> 00:28:31,140 I encourage things sellers to come out 661 00:28:35,870 --> 00:28:33,059 so that's how much I can dive into 662 00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:35,880 deeper about that case yeah and you know 663 00:28:40,730 --> 00:28:38,159 what I think of the three superpowers of 664 00:28:42,409 --> 00:28:40,740 Russia China and the US for if something 665 00:28:44,750 --> 00:28:42,419 like that was going to happen on mass 666 00:28:46,370 --> 00:28:44,760 Landing China would be the place that 667 00:28:48,110 --> 00:28:46,380 you're most likely to keep that secret 668 00:28:50,210 --> 00:28:48,120 and locked down and get as little 669 00:28:53,810 --> 00:28:50,220 information out as possible I think the 670 00:28:55,549 --> 00:28:53,820 Russians would be okay with it maybe but 671 00:28:57,409 --> 00:28:55,559 in America that would be that would be 672 00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:57,419 worldwide news I think that would be it 673 00:29:01,909 --> 00:28:59,520 if that happened you couldn't keep that 674 00:29:03,649 --> 00:29:01,919 secret to that level now really 675 00:29:06,350 --> 00:29:03,659 interesting you mentioned obviously 676 00:29:08,690 --> 00:29:06,360 insiders in China having a treaty 677 00:29:10,669 --> 00:29:08,700 potentially very recently China 678 00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:10,679 announced it would like to lead efforts 679 00:29:16,190 --> 00:29:12,960 at the UN to take charge of the 680 00:29:18,289 --> 00:29:16,200 discussion around UFOs what do you think 681 00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:18,299 about that show is that an attempt to 682 00:29:22,730 --> 00:29:20,159 wrestle back some control of the 683 00:29:24,889 --> 00:29:22,740 narrative from the Americans who are 684 00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:24,899 very much leading the way or is it 685 00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:30,950 look a people probably doesn't know that 686 00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:34,080 um back in 1978 there was a U.N 687 00:29:41,210 --> 00:29:36,960 resolution regarding the research into 688 00:29:43,250 --> 00:29:41,220 into extraterrestrials and China is one 689 00:29:46,669 --> 00:29:43,260 of the five permanent members of the UN 690 00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:46,679 they actually voted for years 691 00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:48,720 we're talking about the U.N resolution 692 00:29:52,970 --> 00:29:51,120 back in 1978. 693 00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:52,980 so that shows you the government 694 00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:55,679 attitude towards this topic but even 695 00:30:00,250 --> 00:29:57,840 though they said yes that doesn't mean 696 00:30:04,010 --> 00:30:00,260 they would support the Grassroots 697 00:30:05,630 --> 00:30:04,020 civilians to research into this the 698 00:30:07,850 --> 00:30:05,640 Chinese attitude especially I mean the 699 00:30:09,649 --> 00:30:07,860 the government attitudes they want to do 700 00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:09,659 their own little research just keep 701 00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:11,880 everything for themselves so they don't 702 00:30:16,430 --> 00:30:13,919 want to like encourage the civilians or 703 00:30:19,370 --> 00:30:16,440 the Grassroots like YouTubers and you 704 00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:19,380 know the people in the community to sort 705 00:30:25,070 --> 00:30:21,960 of overly explore that topic everything 706 00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:25,080 is heavily politically controlled so 707 00:30:29,810 --> 00:30:26,880 even though they said yes you know back 708 00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:29,820 in 1978 at the U.N 709 00:30:36,049 --> 00:30:32,480 um they still doesn't really support 710 00:30:38,210 --> 00:30:36,059 that kind of research into the topic but 711 00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:38,220 get back to your question regarding the 712 00:30:42,169 --> 00:30:40,799 race when U.N proposal 713 00:30:45,649 --> 00:30:42,179 um you have to know that there are a lot 714 00:30:47,630 --> 00:30:45,659 of competing interests because I see the 715 00:30:50,510 --> 00:30:47,640 alien 716 00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:50,520 ET topic is the last sort of hidden 717 00:30:55,549 --> 00:30:53,760 truth from the entire public if the U.S 718 00:30:59,090 --> 00:30:55,559 going to release which already released 719 00:31:01,070 --> 00:30:59,100 the report on the 25th of June we would 720 00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:01,080 think that China can't just sit here 721 00:31:05,810 --> 00:31:02,640 doing nothing right they obviously want 722 00:31:09,049 --> 00:31:05,820 to have kind of show some attitude like 723 00:31:11,930 --> 00:31:09,059 have some reaction towards that so they 724 00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:11,940 can't be lagging behind so I think 725 00:31:17,389 --> 00:31:15,360 that's that's one of the sort of like a 726 00:31:20,450 --> 00:31:17,399 chess play they try to show people yes 727 00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:20,460 not only the US and Russia we are also 728 00:31:27,649 --> 00:31:24,240 as a stakeholder in this phenomenon so 729 00:31:30,169 --> 00:31:27,659 we are also looked into this as well and 730 00:31:32,570 --> 00:31:30,179 on top of that and the Manchester as you 731 00:31:34,450 --> 00:31:32,580 can see from the news China in the last 732 00:31:37,370 --> 00:31:34,460 10 years 733 00:31:40,070 --> 00:31:37,380 rapidly try to develop their like a 734 00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:40,080 space Aerospace technology sending the 735 00:31:44,510 --> 00:31:42,480 Rockets into Sky so you can see a lot in 736 00:31:47,090 --> 00:31:44,520 the last three or four years that shows 737 00:31:49,070 --> 00:31:47,100 you that not only the US I try to build 738 00:31:50,990 --> 00:31:49,080 up there like a space is that called a 739 00:31:53,450 --> 00:31:51,000 space army or space force I can't 740 00:31:55,610 --> 00:31:53,460 remember the name Russia will do the 741 00:31:59,870 --> 00:31:55,620 same and China also have a competing 742 00:32:03,289 --> 00:31:59,880 interest in the space so I think that's 743 00:32:06,529 --> 00:32:03,299 it's a politics but also EXO politics 744 00:32:08,990 --> 00:32:06,539 and also the alien beings you know in 745 00:32:12,110 --> 00:32:09,000 the U.S is a backup by you know these 746 00:32:15,289 --> 00:32:12,120 race and that alien race the China may 747 00:32:17,510 --> 00:32:15,299 have a corresponding their alien and 748 00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:17,520 allies as well you know helping them 749 00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,919 with certain I don't know technology or 750 00:32:24,110 --> 00:32:21,840 any advancement of I don't know thinking 751 00:32:26,090 --> 00:32:24,120 or something else so they are competing 752 00:32:29,090 --> 00:32:26,100 interests not just around the earthlings 753 00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:29,100 among the governments but also looking 754 00:32:34,730 --> 00:32:31,919 at bigger greatness of the sky to do 755 00:32:36,409 --> 00:32:34,740 with other beings as well so we only 756 00:32:39,230 --> 00:32:36,419 know very little information so I 757 00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:39,240 wouldn't be surprised that China is also 758 00:32:44,990 --> 00:32:41,220 have a treaty or even more trickies with 759 00:32:46,970 --> 00:32:45,000 multiple beings yes now you mentioned 760 00:32:49,490 --> 00:32:46,980 China's rapidly expanding space program 761 00:32:51,470 --> 00:32:49,500 and it just got me thinking that um a 762 00:32:53,930 --> 00:32:51,480 couple of years ago China sent a probe 763 00:32:55,549 --> 00:32:53,940 to the the moon and they wanted to study 764 00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:55,559 the the Dark Side of them and which 765 00:33:00,350 --> 00:32:57,840 obviously we don't see here on Earth a 766 00:33:02,750 --> 00:33:00,360 lot of people talk about beings that may 767 00:33:05,930 --> 00:33:02,760 or may not be based on earth have 768 00:33:08,029 --> 00:33:05,940 potentially structures or objects on the 769 00:33:09,710 --> 00:33:08,039 moon that again if we could see that 770 00:33:11,630 --> 00:33:09,720 with a telescope or you know that was on 771 00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:11,640 NASA's page that would be that would be 772 00:33:15,649 --> 00:33:13,919 huge news and former astronauts have 773 00:33:18,110 --> 00:33:15,659 talked about that as well did you ever 774 00:33:19,789 --> 00:33:18,120 hear anything about China's probe that 775 00:33:21,049 --> 00:33:19,799 was sent up and anything that may or may 776 00:33:24,649 --> 00:33:21,059 not have come back 777 00:33:26,450 --> 00:33:24,659 well I can I can say these are yet to be 778 00:33:28,610 --> 00:33:26,460 verified I haven't really thought the 779 00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:28,620 verification double check yet so what I 780 00:33:34,490 --> 00:33:31,440 heard from my friend is that after China 781 00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:34,500 sent that little like a landing rules or 782 00:33:39,049 --> 00:33:36,240 whatever that little robots in to the 783 00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:39,059 back of the Mask I think that same bit 784 00:33:45,409 --> 00:33:41,760 of like exploration for a few days 785 00:33:46,730 --> 00:33:45,419 and what's interesting is Donald Trump's 786 00:33:48,590 --> 00:33:46,740 reaction 787 00:33:49,850 --> 00:33:48,600 I heard from my friends they show you 788 00:33:52,190 --> 00:33:49,860 better just double check on the Twitter 789 00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:52,200 I said what's going on they say after 790 00:33:56,889 --> 00:33:55,679 China did that Donald Trump sent a 791 00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:56,899 Twitter message 792 00:34:03,950 --> 00:34:00,720 uh drop a line something like now 793 00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:03,960 something on the line like China now 794 00:34:08,210 --> 00:34:06,240 know the truth behind the Momo something 795 00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:08,220 around the line you know I need to check 796 00:34:13,849 --> 00:34:12,060 the Twitter message uh so that sent you 797 00:34:17,570 --> 00:34:13,859 uh 798 00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:17,580 a message that maybe Trump tried to hint 799 00:34:22,010 --> 00:34:19,740 trying to now know what's going on 800 00:34:24,829 --> 00:34:22,020 behind the womb so what's really behind 801 00:34:26,570 --> 00:34:24,839 the moon we don't know you know we we're 802 00:34:28,909 --> 00:34:26,580 waiting for the government to tell us 803 00:34:31,250 --> 00:34:28,919 but uh but we can guess what's behind 804 00:34:34,250 --> 00:34:31,260 them all I think that's that's quite 805 00:34:37,210 --> 00:34:34,260 clear now so and what's interesting is 806 00:34:41,089 --> 00:34:37,220 about the Chinese reaction after that 807 00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:41,099 China all students started to solve this 808 00:34:46,669 --> 00:34:44,159 closure movement so because everything 809 00:34:49,250 --> 00:34:46,679 is so politically controlled so what 810 00:34:52,210 --> 00:34:49,260 they did is after that incident they 811 00:34:55,730 --> 00:34:52,220 tried to let people explore the topic of 812 00:34:58,070 --> 00:34:55,740 Science Fiction so science fiction also 813 00:35:02,570 --> 00:34:58,080 become really popular science fiction 814 00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:02,580 movies science fiction books 815 00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:05,040 um yeah every they really control the 816 00:35:10,490 --> 00:35:08,880 narrative about UFO disclosures 817 00:35:12,530 --> 00:35:10,500 there's some really interesting stuff 818 00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:12,540 there and next time I speak to you go 819 00:35:15,170 --> 00:35:13,920 I'll go into more detail on that but 820 00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:15,180 I've got a few more things I want to 821 00:35:19,310 --> 00:35:16,800 discuss especially that came up within 822 00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:19,320 the listener questions you yourself have 823 00:35:23,810 --> 00:35:21,359 talked about and you mentioned out of 824 00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:23,820 body experiences earlier and you've 825 00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:26,760 talked about uh experiences with ET from 826 00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:28,079 different parts of the universe 827 00:35:33,050 --> 00:35:30,180 different dimensions and you've had 828 00:35:35,650 --> 00:35:33,060 negative and positive experiences when 829 00:35:39,770 --> 00:35:35,660 did these experiences begin for you 830 00:35:43,130 --> 00:35:39,780 uh my experience a very gradual level so 831 00:35:46,250 --> 00:35:43,140 I believe I started when I was you know 832 00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:46,260 adverse but I don't remember anything so 833 00:35:54,410 --> 00:35:49,920 my conscious recall was really happened 834 00:35:56,750 --> 00:35:54,420 after my first UFO side team and then 835 00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:56,760 you know I write out my diary I do 836 00:36:02,810 --> 00:35:59,760 record everything so all the strange 837 00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:02,820 fingers crossed phenomena happened after 838 00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:05,160 the first UFO sighting but it was a very 839 00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:07,920 gradual level it was very distant you 840 00:36:12,050 --> 00:36:09,599 know firstly was like out of body 841 00:36:14,930 --> 00:36:12,060 experience and then lucid dreaming so 842 00:36:17,930 --> 00:36:14,940 those were the non-invasive counter 843 00:36:20,690 --> 00:36:17,940 modalities and it was like you know once 844 00:36:23,829 --> 00:36:20,700 every two months very minor and then 845 00:36:27,530 --> 00:36:23,839 gradually start to became very intense 846 00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:27,540 and very frequent and more sort of 847 00:36:32,089 --> 00:36:30,300 confrontings to the degree that you know 848 00:36:34,010 --> 00:36:32,099 maybe you have a being standing in front 849 00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:34,020 of you you know talking to you you know 850 00:36:38,569 --> 00:36:36,480 something like that so uh yeah it's it's 851 00:36:40,190 --> 00:36:38,579 a very gradual level and also you are 852 00:36:42,410 --> 00:36:40,200 correct about that you know I had a very 853 00:36:44,030 --> 00:36:42,420 positive encounters most of them are 854 00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:44,040 very positive 855 00:36:48,349 --> 00:36:46,079 um some of them are very neutral you 856 00:36:49,730 --> 00:36:48,359 know business like they just wanna you 857 00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:49,740 know check it out see what you're doing 858 00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:51,839 and there are a few could be very 859 00:36:57,849 --> 00:36:54,480 negative you know not very lesson so I 860 00:37:02,329 --> 00:36:57,859 had a very full spectrum of 861 00:37:04,910 --> 00:37:02,339 uh experiences so yeah 862 00:37:06,410 --> 00:37:04,920 why do you think not only you because 863 00:37:08,690 --> 00:37:06,420 it's I think it's very obvious to ask 864 00:37:11,810 --> 00:37:08,700 why are you having these experiences but 865 00:37:14,510 --> 00:37:11,820 also in general why as a species are we 866 00:37:17,390 --> 00:37:14,520 having these experiences or contacts at 867 00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:21,349 um I think they are getting us prepared 868 00:37:25,609 --> 00:37:22,800 coming 869 00:37:29,690 --> 00:37:25,619 because if you don't get those 870 00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:29,700 experiences when the veil is you know 871 00:37:38,030 --> 00:37:34,560 remove or be such a comforting shock to 872 00:37:40,190 --> 00:37:38,040 us so better to do it through gradual 873 00:37:42,589 --> 00:37:40,200 sort of injury you know like you know 874 00:37:44,569 --> 00:37:42,599 have a graduate experience to now you 875 00:37:46,849 --> 00:37:44,579 know if if people tell you Andy you know 876 00:37:48,650 --> 00:37:46,859 this is real this is happening if next 877 00:37:50,690 --> 00:37:48,660 day you really see a physical craft 878 00:37:53,630 --> 00:37:50,700 waiting for you you wouldn't be that 879 00:37:55,970 --> 00:37:53,640 kind of surprised I think it's happening 880 00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:55,980 to everyone 881 00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:58,800 um but I think they are just getting us 882 00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:01,920 prepared for a big event that about to 883 00:38:05,810 --> 00:38:04,320 happen so that's that's that's what I 884 00:38:07,970 --> 00:38:05,820 believe 885 00:38:10,010 --> 00:38:07,980 no I'll ask you this question then okay 886 00:38:11,690 --> 00:38:10,020 just to push a bit deeper and this is me 887 00:38:13,310 --> 00:38:11,700 Playing devil's advocate here and you're 888 00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:13,320 a lawyer you'll be just far far more 889 00:38:19,250 --> 00:38:16,560 used to this than I now if this happens 890 00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:19,260 to you or me or or someone who doesn't 891 00:38:23,390 --> 00:38:20,880 have a platform to speak on you know 892 00:38:24,589 --> 00:38:23,400 just you're I'm your average person on 893 00:38:26,450 --> 00:38:24,599 the street as well but someone who 894 00:38:28,310 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00:40:28,930 --> 00:40:27,359 changed how I use my existing iPad and 952 00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:28,940 it's giving it a new lease of life 953 00:40:33,050 --> 00:40:31,200 pay-per-like is perfect for anyone who 954 00:40:35,150 --> 00:40:33,060 draws and writes using an iPad and an 955 00:40:37,609 --> 00:40:35,160 apple pencil the surface of the paper 956 00:40:39,470 --> 00:40:37,619 like is coated using Nano dots tiny 957 00:40:41,210 --> 00:40:39,480 microbeads are designed to add Superior 958 00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:41,220 stroke Precision when you drag the apple 959 00:40:45,470 --> 00:40:43,680 pencil across the screen every paper 960 00:40:48,109 --> 00:40:45,480 light comes in a set of two so you'll 961 00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:48,119 always have a spare in case you need I'm 962 00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:49,920 not artist either but my kids certainly 963 00:40:52,910 --> 00:40:51,660 approve of using it to draw a little and 964 00:40:55,370 --> 00:40:52,920 I can have peace of mind the screen 965 00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:55,380 underneath is completely protected to 966 00:41:00,109 --> 00:40:57,200 pick up your paper like head over to 967 00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,119 paperlike.com forward slash that UFO 968 00:41:05,089 --> 00:41:02,640 click buy paper like and select your 969 00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:05,099 iPad size from now until the end of 970 00:41:09,290 --> 00:41:06,960 January paperlike is also including 971 00:41:11,569 --> 00:41:09,300 their digital Pro planner bundle at no 972 00:41:13,250 --> 00:41:11,579 extra cost with every order placed 973 00:41:15,770 --> 00:41:13,260 through the paper like store plus 974 00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:15,780 shipping is completely free ready to do 975 00:41:20,930 --> 00:41:17,760 more with your iPad then head over to 976 00:41:22,310 --> 00:41:20,940 paperlike.com forward slash that UFO to 977 00:41:26,089 --> 00:41:22,320 get started 978 00:41:30,290 --> 00:41:26,099 that's a great question I mean 979 00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:30,300 I think on some level everyone on this 980 00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:33,599 planet have encountered those beings so 981 00:41:37,069 --> 00:41:34,880 you know extra dimensional 982 00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:37,079 interdimensional different density all 983 00:41:41,930 --> 00:41:39,359 sorts of beings and I do believe it's a 984 00:41:43,010 --> 00:41:41,940 global phenomena happens to everyone but 985 00:41:44,270 --> 00:41:43,020 towards a different degree you know 986 00:41:46,430 --> 00:41:44,280 people may have a really you know 987 00:41:47,870 --> 00:41:46,440 consider them as angel or demon or 988 00:41:50,810 --> 00:41:47,880 whatever you know from the religious 989 00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:50,820 lens but we may see them as just simply 990 00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:54,480 it is so those were leaders from my 991 00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:57,000 opinion according to my opinion I do 992 00:42:02,270 --> 00:42:00,240 believe they have encounters but to 993 00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:02,280 something like some presidents you know 994 00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,740 like Obama and those people they make it 995 00:42:09,230 --> 00:42:06,720 a full breathing they know what's going 996 00:42:12,349 --> 00:42:09,240 on precisely they may meet those beings 997 00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:12,359 in person physical handshakes where to 998 00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:15,359 some other key players in the field you 999 00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:17,359 know holding very important positions 1000 00:42:23,810 --> 00:42:21,599 they may not privileged to certain 1001 00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:23,820 information like this 1002 00:42:27,050 --> 00:42:25,680 um just for example I mean just like a 1003 00:42:28,910 --> 00:42:27,060 minister over I don't know like 1004 00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:28,920 education I'm just making that up you 1005 00:42:35,210 --> 00:42:31,680 know he or she may not privilege to that 1006 00:42:37,970 --> 00:42:35,220 level of intelligence but the beings May 1007 00:42:40,670 --> 00:42:37,980 encounter him or her through like dream 1008 00:42:43,310 --> 00:42:40,680 state so I do believe they have some 1009 00:42:46,310 --> 00:42:43,320 level of download but the issue is here 1010 00:42:48,770 --> 00:42:46,320 and the everybody is so different those 1011 00:42:53,089 --> 00:42:48,780 people holding the key positions they 1012 00:42:56,030 --> 00:42:53,099 may not be as nice or conscious as you 1013 00:42:58,250 --> 00:42:56,040 and the viewers so their reaction to 1014 00:43:01,069 --> 00:42:58,260 those beings or how to handle that 1015 00:43:02,750 --> 00:43:01,079 situation could be very different for us 1016 00:43:05,089 --> 00:43:02,760 we can say oh well that's great maybe 1017 00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:05,099 they can teach us and help us for those 1018 00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:07,920 politicians they may see them as a 1019 00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:11,520 threat to you know overturn the 1020 00:43:16,730 --> 00:43:15,119 political sort of regime or whatever so 1021 00:43:19,790 --> 00:43:16,740 they may take a different approach 1022 00:43:23,569 --> 00:43:19,800 towards those beings so for them knowing 1023 00:43:25,970 --> 00:43:23,579 too much may not necessarily benefit the 1024 00:43:27,410 --> 00:43:25,980 humanity as a whole so that's that's why 1025 00:43:29,630 --> 00:43:27,420 what I think 1026 00:43:32,930 --> 00:43:29,640 yeah they do have experience but they 1027 00:43:36,170 --> 00:43:32,940 don't really view those experience as 1028 00:43:38,930 --> 00:43:36,180 beneficial for themselves 1029 00:43:41,390 --> 00:43:38,940 and one of your other areas and you have 1030 00:43:43,130 --> 00:43:41,400 many of expertise as in like ancient 1031 00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:43,140 civilizations that's something you've 1032 00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:45,300 talked about and you did a lecture on 1033 00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:47,280 that uh presentation it contacted the 1034 00:43:53,230 --> 00:43:50,160 desert as well that's currently ongoing 1035 00:43:56,030 --> 00:43:53,240 um now what initially attracted you to 1036 00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:56,040 ancient civilizations as a topic I 1037 00:43:59,930 --> 00:43:58,079 suppose it may go hand in hand with UFOs 1038 00:44:01,490 --> 00:43:59,940 but you've got quite a lot there that 1039 00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:01,500 you're you're fitting into a relatively 1040 00:44:06,589 --> 00:44:03,720 short time as well 1041 00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:06,599 well to be completely honest I was mean 1042 00:44:12,829 --> 00:44:10,079 to talk about Chinese ufology in the 1043 00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:12,839 content in the desert but also being 1044 00:44:18,650 --> 00:44:17,280 friendly told by someone say Xiao you 1045 00:44:20,990 --> 00:44:18,660 need to watch out because your 1046 00:44:22,849 --> 00:44:21,000 background is Chinese we would hope that 1047 00:44:25,569 --> 00:44:22,859 you don't catch too much attention from 1048 00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:25,579 the CCP so just for my safety concern 1049 00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:29,040 and the others that's why I choose one 1050 00:44:34,010 --> 00:44:31,920 of the conservative topics which is you 1051 00:44:35,630 --> 00:44:34,020 know Ancient Aliens 1052 00:44:38,210 --> 00:44:35,640 um it's firstly it's fun it's 1053 00:44:40,730 --> 00:44:38,220 interesting we talk about what the 1054 00:44:42,530 --> 00:44:40,740 ancient Chinese is like you know Trace 1055 00:44:45,470 --> 00:44:42,540 back to the ancient Sumerians and 1056 00:44:47,569 --> 00:44:45,480 ancient Egyptians but also it ties to 1057 00:44:50,030 --> 00:44:47,579 the origin of China you know a 1058 00:44:52,730 --> 00:44:50,040 connection with Orion the Pleiades and 1059 00:44:54,829 --> 00:44:52,740 series and other many other star systems 1060 00:44:59,690 --> 00:44:54,839 too so I think it's it's interesting 1061 00:45:02,809 --> 00:44:59,700 topic but also not overly sensitive that 1062 00:45:04,430 --> 00:45:02,819 could get me into trouble and to be 1063 00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:04,440 completely honest that's one of the 1064 00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:06,720 major reasons of why I choose that topic 1065 00:45:11,690 --> 00:45:09,839 I'm more than happy to share wow like 1066 00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:11,700 big sensitive information with everyone 1067 00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:14,160 but I need to watch out because you 1068 00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:15,839 don't know that I've Been Told off by 1069 00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:18,960 the CCP back in early 2019 they are 1070 00:45:23,150 --> 00:45:21,119 watching me so I need to be very careful 1071 00:45:25,309 --> 00:45:23,160 about what I can say what I can't say to 1072 00:45:27,050 --> 00:45:25,319 be honest so so and you know what that's 1073 00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:27,060 that's totally fair that's very very 1074 00:45:29,329 --> 00:45:28,079 fair 1075 00:45:32,089 --> 00:45:29,339 um we're living in a time right now 1076 00:45:34,670 --> 00:45:32,099 where UFO new APS are a hot topic of 1077 00:45:37,309 --> 00:45:34,680 discussion and no doubt that'll be more 1078 00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:37,319 so a reason that unfortunately you get 1079 00:45:42,109 --> 00:45:40,079 monitored by the CCP and other people 1080 00:45:44,510 --> 00:45:42,119 who who want to do what you do as well 1081 00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:44,520 there's a lot of talk that some of these 1082 00:45:49,069 --> 00:45:47,040 objects may originate from here on our 1083 00:45:51,410 --> 00:45:49,079 planet already and when you talk about 1084 00:45:54,109 --> 00:45:51,420 ancient civilizations do you feel 1085 00:45:56,270 --> 00:45:54,119 there's a real connection between some 1086 00:45:58,130 --> 00:45:56,280 of these objects we see especially from 1087 00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:58,140 the US military videos that are coming 1088 00:46:02,329 --> 00:46:00,720 out that the potentially based here on 1089 00:46:04,730 --> 00:46:02,339 this planet already 1090 00:46:07,250 --> 00:46:04,740 I think so I think there are some memory 1091 00:46:09,170 --> 00:46:07,260 crops uh the one which I just sent to 1092 00:46:12,349 --> 00:46:09,180 Grand Cameron today is actually 1093 00:46:14,990 --> 00:46:12,359 triangular shaped craft hovering on top 1094 00:46:18,890 --> 00:46:15,000 of you know the the called the bond in 1095 00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:18,900 Shanghai which is CBD area huge crop so 1096 00:46:24,829 --> 00:46:20,640 I think that could be a man-made craft 1097 00:46:26,990 --> 00:46:24,839 not necessarily is related to UTIs so 1098 00:46:30,050 --> 00:46:27,000 when we talk about now they call it the 1099 00:46:32,210 --> 00:46:30,060 UAP now not just UFO uh we're talking 1100 00:46:35,450 --> 00:46:32,220 about a crop that could be man-made 1101 00:46:38,569 --> 00:46:35,460 could be an alien technology or could be 1102 00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:38,579 you know some some craft a no material 1103 00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:42,800 in the some crafts are purely sort of 1104 00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:46,319 shaped by you know higher technology 1105 00:46:51,170 --> 00:46:48,720 it's called like a energy just pure 1106 00:46:53,809 --> 00:46:51,180 energy craft and that's very interesting 1107 00:46:56,690 --> 00:46:53,819 it's beyond comprehension 1108 00:46:59,089 --> 00:46:56,700 um yeah yeah I think so 1109 00:47:01,130 --> 00:46:59,099 I'll segue and to listener questions 1110 00:47:02,690 --> 00:47:01,140 because a few things I want to touch on 1111 00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:02,700 are going to be within the body of those 1112 00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:03,839 as well 1113 00:47:09,230 --> 00:47:06,960 um the first one from Dave is why do you 1114 00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:09,240 think the CCP has supported the 1115 00:47:14,329 --> 00:47:12,240 formation of UFO groups and the links 1116 00:47:16,490 --> 00:47:14,339 potentially to government and what is 1117 00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:16,500 the experience of unauthorized Chinese 1118 00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:18,720 ufologists 1119 00:47:24,170 --> 00:47:22,079 yeah so uh at the beginning it was due 1120 00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,180 to technology reason you know we're 1121 00:47:30,349 --> 00:47:26,400 talking about back in 90s and people 1122 00:47:32,569 --> 00:47:30,359 read hard copy books more often and 90s 1123 00:47:34,510 --> 00:47:32,579 period that's where the internet start 1124 00:47:39,050 --> 00:47:34,520 to you know 1125 00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:39,060 become popular so but I think the golden 1126 00:47:46,190 --> 00:47:43,440 period for Chinese symphology were 2005 1127 00:47:50,510 --> 00:47:46,200 to 2000 1128 00:47:53,210 --> 00:47:50,520 18 but after 2018 starting from 2019 1129 00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:53,220 everything being shut down so Dave thank 1130 00:47:57,470 --> 00:47:55,680 you so much for your question I mean uh 1131 00:47:59,329 --> 00:47:57,480 everything is a period I think in the 1132 00:48:01,309 --> 00:47:59,339 last two to three years China actually 1133 00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:01,319 CCP have a Crackdown on your 4G 1134 00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:03,839 Community which is quite obvious so I do 1135 00:48:08,270 --> 00:48:06,000 think it's a tighten the control in this 1136 00:48:11,390 --> 00:48:08,280 field in the last two three two three 1137 00:48:13,309 --> 00:48:11,400 two to three years so yeah but prior to 1138 00:48:14,809 --> 00:48:13,319 that was a golden period for Chinese 1139 00:48:18,170 --> 00:48:14,819 mythology 1140 00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:18,180 and what is the experience now of I 1141 00:48:22,849 --> 00:48:21,119 suppose unauthorized ufologists in China 1142 00:48:24,589 --> 00:48:22,859 if they're having a discussion like 1143 00:48:26,569 --> 00:48:24,599 you're having but you're based in 1144 00:48:28,970 --> 00:48:26,579 Australia but you're still getting those 1145 00:48:31,010 --> 00:48:28,980 warnings and monitoring what happens if 1146 00:48:33,890 --> 00:48:31,020 you're trying to do this in China as a 1147 00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:33,900 ufologist as much as you can see let me 1148 00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:36,240 give you a case Dave 1149 00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:39,680 um a few years ago there's a a female 1150 00:48:46,670 --> 00:48:43,280 ufology uh ufologist 1151 00:48:49,250 --> 00:48:46,680 her pen name is love and alight 1152 00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,260 she was sharing some light messages from 1153 00:48:53,450 --> 00:48:51,599 Pleiadians you know love and light this 1154 00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:53,460 and that's the stuff you know you see 1155 00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:55,440 everywhere on the YouTubes 1156 00:49:03,530 --> 00:49:00,480 one day she's been caught by the ccpe 1157 00:49:05,329 --> 00:49:03,540 um on based on two grounds one is 1158 00:49:07,730 --> 00:49:05,339 illegal rallies 1159 00:49:09,890 --> 00:49:07,740 because in China if you want to gather 1160 00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:09,900 people for more than 40 people you know 1161 00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,000 each service is quite different you have 1162 00:49:16,730 --> 00:49:14,400 to get a special permit or approval from 1163 00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:16,740 the local government otherwise you can't 1164 00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:18,960 have small Gatherings she doesn't have 1165 00:49:23,450 --> 00:49:21,119 the small gathering permit that's why 1166 00:49:25,250 --> 00:49:23,460 the labor was you know prosecute her 1167 00:49:29,150 --> 00:49:25,260 under the ground of 1168 00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:29,160 um illegal rallies second uh call her as 1169 00:49:35,089 --> 00:49:32,400 you know alien count like almost like 1170 00:49:38,690 --> 00:49:35,099 illegal religious cult and then shipping 1171 00:49:41,930 --> 00:49:38,700 sentenced to jail for eight years full 1172 00:49:44,450 --> 00:49:41,940 sentence no uh no profile so that's 1173 00:49:46,970 --> 00:49:44,460 telling you how serious it is in China 1174 00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:46,980 to promote your phonology just so the 1175 00:49:51,170 --> 00:49:49,200 people like her with a pen name of love 1176 00:49:52,849 --> 00:49:51,180 and lie just talking about something you 1177 00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:52,859 know they really stuff all the 1178 00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:55,200 Pleiadians said this and that level line 1179 00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:56,640 you know treat each other like a brother 1180 00:50:00,890 --> 00:49:59,040 and sister just stand the stuff she's 1181 00:50:02,990 --> 00:50:00,900 been sentenced to jail for eight years 1182 00:50:05,089 --> 00:50:03,000 imagine what if I'm actually in China 1183 00:50:06,829 --> 00:50:05,099 now that could be the same fate for me 1184 00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:06,839 so lucky that I'm based in Sydney 1185 00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:09,359 Australia so that's why I want to share 1186 00:50:17,870 --> 00:50:12,960 that the situation for long ufologists 1187 00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:17,880 in China are very uh you sort of quite 1188 00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:21,119 dangerous so you need to be very Mindful 1189 00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:25,200 and articulate about what message you 1190 00:50:30,410 --> 00:50:27,839 can share or not to share like the case 1191 00:50:32,750 --> 00:50:30,420 I share with Andy about you know the 1192 00:50:36,349 --> 00:50:32,760 hondro airport I'm more than happy to 1193 00:50:38,510 --> 00:50:36,359 share more exciting uh interesting info 1194 00:50:40,790 --> 00:50:38,520 but I don't want to get into trouble so 1195 00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:40,800 I can only touch on the keywords and 1196 00:50:46,490 --> 00:50:43,200 leave as it is so yeah 1197 00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:46,500 and next up we had Derek and Derek wants 1198 00:50:50,990 --> 00:50:48,480 to know what are xiao's thoughts on 1199 00:50:53,450 --> 00:50:51,000 Atlantis and did she think it existed 1200 00:50:55,309 --> 00:50:53,460 and that potentially a few survivors 1201 00:50:58,130 --> 00:50:55,319 spread their knowledge to the pyramid 1202 00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:58,140 builders on different continents thank 1203 00:51:03,970 --> 00:50:59,760 you Derek thanks for your question yes 1204 00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:03,980 I'm 100 believed that Atlantis did exist 1205 00:51:10,849 --> 00:51:07,920 and so many of us had an Incarnation as 1206 00:51:12,410 --> 00:51:10,859 antolinium back in those times and I 1207 00:51:15,770 --> 00:51:12,420 even had a lucid dreaming around Italian 1208 00:51:17,450 --> 00:51:15,780 they told me to use crystals 1209 00:51:19,309 --> 00:51:17,460 um I do believe it's a highly of 1210 00:51:22,970 --> 00:51:19,319 advanced symbolization and not only 1211 00:51:26,510 --> 00:51:22,980 Atlantis but also lemurians uh did exist 1212 00:51:29,089 --> 00:51:26,520 back back in old days 1213 00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:29,099 and dedic also follows up with do you 1214 00:51:33,470 --> 00:51:30,720 think they could be living under the 1215 00:51:36,049 --> 00:51:33,480 Antarctic case and operating new APS 1216 00:51:43,490 --> 00:51:38,750 that depends which phrase 1217 00:51:49,190 --> 00:51:45,250 Expressions on this area I believe 1218 00:51:52,130 --> 00:51:49,200 antelantis had quite a few major periods 1219 00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,140 in their history so when we talk about 1220 00:51:57,170 --> 00:51:54,720 their uh a location geographical 1221 00:51:59,349 --> 00:51:57,180 location so the early stage to the 1222 00:52:03,970 --> 00:51:59,359 middle stage of Atlanta is spread around 1223 00:52:06,109 --> 00:52:03,980 you know sort of between the um 1224 00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:06,119 atlantisville you call it the eastern 1225 00:52:11,510 --> 00:52:08,640 part of U.S and the western part of 1226 00:52:13,250 --> 00:52:11,520 Europe those those areas is huge and 1227 00:52:15,650 --> 00:52:13,260 then they have some kind of issue and 1228 00:52:18,650 --> 00:52:15,660 then they shrink a bit so it depends 1229 00:52:20,990 --> 00:52:18,660 which phrase of the history that uh 1230 00:52:25,069 --> 00:52:21,000 Derek is referring to but I do believe 1231 00:52:27,230 --> 00:52:25,079 it's sort of around those regions 1232 00:52:28,910 --> 00:52:27,240 and I'll follow up on that as is there 1233 00:52:31,370 --> 00:52:28,920 anything you've done in your research or 1234 00:52:32,990 --> 00:52:31,380 you've heard about Antarctica now it's a 1235 00:52:35,450 --> 00:52:33,000 quite a fascinating place and there's 1236 00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:35,460 lots of stories and rumors about what 1237 00:52:40,430 --> 00:52:37,440 may or may not have gone on there it 1238 00:52:43,130 --> 00:52:40,440 gets as Extreme as you know Nazi basis 1239 00:52:45,530 --> 00:52:43,140 under the ice with alien hybrids and 1240 00:52:47,930 --> 00:52:45,540 Nazis and then the US were there and the 1241 00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:47,940 Russians the Chinese were there what do 1242 00:52:52,849 --> 00:52:50,400 you think is so special about Antarctica 1243 00:52:56,450 --> 00:52:52,859 and and why it has this place within 1244 00:53:00,349 --> 00:52:58,250 um I have a Siri just from my own 1245 00:53:02,690 --> 00:53:00,359 opinion 1246 00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:02,700 um I think there are many interesting 1247 00:53:08,809 --> 00:53:06,000 places hidden underneath of the eyes or 1248 00:53:10,730 --> 00:53:08,819 underground but the reason why in the 1249 00:53:14,410 --> 00:53:10,740 last few days people pay more attention 1250 00:53:17,210 --> 00:53:14,420 to this area is due to deliberate 1251 00:53:20,450 --> 00:53:17,220 narrative control by the intelligence 1252 00:53:23,690 --> 00:53:20,460 Community I do feel there's a push from 1253 00:53:25,730 --> 00:53:23,700 those communities want to want people to 1254 00:53:27,530 --> 00:53:25,740 focus in this area so they give you 1255 00:53:30,530 --> 00:53:27,540 those like a little Drip Drop 1256 00:53:32,270 --> 00:53:30,540 information just like enticing you you 1257 00:53:34,670 --> 00:53:32,280 know look into this but they don't want 1258 00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:34,680 to tell you too much because they see 1259 00:53:39,710 --> 00:53:37,920 the ufology field is quite dangerous for 1260 00:53:43,130 --> 00:53:39,720 them so they want to give you a 1261 00:53:44,089 --> 00:53:43,140 direction where to focus but they also 1262 00:53:46,190 --> 00:53:44,099 don't want to give you too much 1263 00:53:47,870 --> 00:53:46,200 information so I think in the last few 1264 00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:47,880 years they want us to focus on 1265 00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:50,880 Antarctica because you know they might 1266 00:53:54,890 --> 00:53:52,800 have a military base or maybe that's 1267 00:53:58,190 --> 00:53:54,900 where the human species are originally 1268 00:54:00,829 --> 00:53:58,200 came from I don't know but uh at least 1269 00:54:03,770 --> 00:54:00,839 what I want to focus on that question is 1270 00:54:06,290 --> 00:54:03,780 that I do believe it's actually a 1271 00:54:08,089 --> 00:54:06,300 deliberate narrative control by the 1272 00:54:10,670 --> 00:54:08,099 intelligence Community they want us to 1273 00:54:13,790 --> 00:54:10,680 focus in this area by just giving us 1274 00:54:15,010 --> 00:54:13,800 that little information not much just 1275 00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:15,020 enough 1276 00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:17,520 uh yeah 1277 00:54:21,950 --> 00:54:19,920 I always find Antarctica as a place 1278 00:54:23,870 --> 00:54:21,960 fascinating and you hear so many 1279 00:54:26,270 --> 00:54:23,880 different stories and narratives about 1280 00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:26,280 what may or may not be there what may 1281 00:54:29,630 --> 00:54:28,319 have gone on in the past but it's one I 1282 00:54:31,309 --> 00:54:29,640 like to talk about now and again I've 1283 00:54:34,990 --> 00:54:31,319 not done enough so 1284 00:54:37,250 --> 00:54:35,000 um also Derek wants to know right yeah 1285 00:54:38,809 --> 00:54:37,260 there's a one more place people can 1286 00:54:41,089 --> 00:54:38,819 focus on there's so many fascinating 1287 00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:41,099 places so that's why the intelligence 1288 00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:42,960 Community they want us to focus in this 1289 00:54:48,290 --> 00:54:45,359 area because there are more more places 1290 00:54:51,530 --> 00:54:48,300 and more important than Antarctica from 1291 00:54:54,290 --> 00:54:51,540 my perspective you know the biggest the 1292 00:54:56,210 --> 00:54:54,300 biggest the pyramid on this planet what 1293 00:54:57,650 --> 00:54:56,220 I heard from a friend of mines is 1294 00:55:00,290 --> 00:54:57,660 actually in Bolivia 1295 00:55:03,170 --> 00:55:00,300 that's the biggest pyramid 1296 00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:03,180 and what they found in this pyramids are 1297 00:55:07,309 --> 00:55:05,280 fascinating so I think that's more 1298 00:55:09,530 --> 00:55:07,319 interesting for us to focus on that 1299 00:55:11,809 --> 00:55:09,540 people need to dive in like who built 1300 00:55:14,750 --> 00:55:11,819 those pyramids the biggest one on this 1301 00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:14,760 planet and what's actually inside but 1302 00:55:19,849 --> 00:55:17,520 they don't want you know so rather they 1303 00:55:21,290 --> 00:55:19,859 change our direction of focus in 1304 00:55:23,150 --> 00:55:21,300 different areas I mean don't get me 1305 00:55:26,809 --> 00:55:23,160 wrong Antarctica is a very fascinating 1306 00:55:30,170 --> 00:55:26,819 place but I think we also need to keep 1307 00:55:32,049 --> 00:55:30,180 our eyes open for different topics as 1308 00:55:34,490 --> 00:55:32,059 well so yeah 1309 00:55:36,530 --> 00:55:34,500 I mean I'm quite happy to touch on it 1310 00:55:38,930 --> 00:55:36,540 now is there much more you can talk 1311 00:55:41,089 --> 00:55:38,940 about with that pyramid in Bolivia as to 1312 00:55:44,030 --> 00:55:41,099 the contents or or anything you know 1313 00:55:46,730 --> 00:55:44,040 particularly special around it 1314 00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:46,740 yeah um I have a friend of mine who 1315 00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:50,400 actually uh went to that pyramid and she 1316 00:55:56,210 --> 00:55:54,240 said to me that she met the uh the first 1317 00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:56,220 guy who actually discovered the 1318 00:56:01,970 --> 00:55:59,760 Bolivia's pyramid and but that guy's 1319 00:56:04,069 --> 00:56:01,980 being hunted down by the community I 1320 00:56:07,309 --> 00:56:04,079 mean the intelligence can make it really 1321 00:56:09,650 --> 00:56:07,319 you know uh and teaming him ridicued him 1322 00:56:12,410 --> 00:56:09,660 ruined his reputation and everything 1323 00:56:15,410 --> 00:56:12,420 make his life really miserable for the 1324 00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:15,420 purpose of you know crushing so that 1325 00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:17,640 nobody will look into this side anymore 1326 00:56:22,910 --> 00:56:20,160 but that draws me more interest because 1327 00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:22,920 what's really hidden there why don't 1328 00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:24,720 they want people know that there is a 1329 00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:28,079 biggest pyramid in Bolivia what's him 1330 00:56:32,930 --> 00:56:30,720 that what's underneath of it could be 1331 00:56:35,390 --> 00:56:32,940 some real deal stuff that we need to 1332 00:56:38,049 --> 00:56:35,400 focus on do you think if it look if it's 1333 00:56:40,790 --> 00:56:38,059 just a pyramid why pay that much 1334 00:56:42,650 --> 00:56:40,800 emphasis and do so much damage to that 1335 00:56:44,510 --> 00:56:42,660 guy and I do believe that there's 1336 00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:44,520 something for them to hide 1337 00:56:49,849 --> 00:56:47,040 so yeah 1338 00:56:51,290 --> 00:56:49,859 now Graham has a good question and this 1339 00:56:52,849 --> 00:56:51,300 is a quite a sensitive subject 1340 00:56:55,790 --> 00:56:52,859 especially when you want to talk about 1341 00:56:58,670 --> 00:56:55,800 China the CCP and other things are there 1342 00:57:01,370 --> 00:56:58,680 any records of incursions of UFOs around 1343 00:57:03,890 --> 00:57:01,380 Chinese nuclear facilities like you know 1344 00:57:05,870 --> 00:57:03,900 missile silos power plant power plants 1345 00:57:07,490 --> 00:57:05,880 or research facilities 1346 00:57:09,230 --> 00:57:07,500 I don't know 1347 00:57:11,870 --> 00:57:09,240 that's the answer I really don't know 1348 00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:11,880 that much information it's not released 1349 00:57:17,390 --> 00:57:14,880 on the news and I don't really pay much 1350 00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:17,400 attention to those hot spots as well 1351 00:57:21,470 --> 00:57:19,680 because it's quite sensitive so mine 1352 00:57:24,770 --> 00:57:21,480 says I don't know I'm sorry 1353 00:57:26,510 --> 00:57:24,780 no that's okay and from a U.S point of 1354 00:57:28,849 --> 00:57:26,520 view one of the big focuses on the 1355 00:57:31,250 --> 00:57:28,859 conversation is to do with the link 1356 00:57:34,790 --> 00:57:31,260 between these these objects and nuclear 1357 00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:34,800 power so is it just a case of china is 1358 00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:36,960 very very tight-lipped on that side of 1359 00:57:41,630 --> 00:57:38,640 the subject when it comes to nuclear 1360 00:57:43,370 --> 00:57:41,640 weapons yeah absolutely agree with you 1361 00:57:45,890 --> 00:57:43,380 um Andy I think they're very talented 1362 00:57:48,530 --> 00:57:45,900 about that topic and even if that's the 1363 00:57:50,569 --> 00:57:48,540 case you will see these information on 1364 00:57:52,250 --> 00:57:50,579 the news the only people who who 1365 00:57:54,170 --> 00:57:52,260 wouldn't know would be the people who 1366 00:57:55,970 --> 00:57:54,180 actually worked there they will tell you 1367 00:57:58,069 --> 00:57:55,980 you know I saw deciding they shall be 1368 00:57:59,870 --> 00:57:58,079 under this and that but I don't know 1369 00:58:02,450 --> 00:57:59,880 anyone actually worked there so I can't 1370 00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:02,460 really have any information to share but 1371 00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:05,040 just as you know ordinary person my 1372 00:58:10,250 --> 00:58:07,440 guess would be that would be the case 1373 00:58:13,490 --> 00:58:10,260 because those beings doesn't want to see 1374 00:58:15,470 --> 00:58:13,500 a nuclear you know explosion anywhere on 1375 00:58:20,690 --> 00:58:15,480 this planet especially at this time 1376 00:58:22,790 --> 00:58:20,700 right now so I heard that for the UFO uh 1377 00:58:25,370 --> 00:58:22,800 sorry the new nuclear planet in 1378 00:58:27,650 --> 00:58:25,380 different countries they will intend to 1379 00:58:30,530 --> 00:58:27,660 have quite a few you know your you know 1380 00:58:32,750 --> 00:58:30,540 nuclear explosion but didn't happen due 1381 00:58:35,870 --> 00:58:32,760 to you know extraterrestrials 1382 00:58:39,170 --> 00:58:35,880 intervention so I do believe that we are 1383 00:58:41,210 --> 00:58:39,180 protected at this stage 1384 00:58:42,829 --> 00:58:41,220 I'd like to ask you on this and this 1385 00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:42,839 will just be your opinion and it's this 1386 00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:44,400 is just it's not coming from a place of 1387 00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:47,280 any knowledge but a lot of people talk 1388 00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:49,680 about when it comes to to the biological 1389 00:58:53,150 --> 00:58:51,359 nuclear weapons the more advanced 1390 00:58:54,530 --> 00:58:53,160 Weaponry that we have now as a species 1391 00:58:57,109 --> 00:58:54,540 and a human race 1392 00:58:59,390 --> 00:58:57,119 the really devastating stuff people say 1393 00:59:01,309 --> 00:58:59,400 we won't be allowed to use it because 1394 00:59:03,109 --> 00:59:01,319 ETS or other races whether they are 1395 00:59:05,930 --> 00:59:03,119 based on this planet or elsewhere 1396 00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:05,940 wouldn't allow it however we had 1397 00:59:10,789 --> 00:59:08,160 Hiroshima and Nagasaki very close 1398 00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:10,799 together and there is a lot of nuclear 1399 00:59:15,170 --> 00:59:13,680 testing that does go on on the planet at 1400 00:59:18,829 --> 00:59:15,180 any given time 1401 00:59:21,170 --> 00:59:18,839 why do you think those incidents and the 1402 00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:21,180 testing is allowed to happen yet people 1403 00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:24,000 seem quite confident that they won't let 1404 00:59:27,410 --> 00:59:25,440 us have a nuclear war they would just 1405 00:59:29,329 --> 00:59:27,420 turn these things off 1406 00:59:31,549 --> 00:59:29,339 I'd like to thank paperlike for 1407 00:59:33,410 --> 00:59:31,559 sponsoring this episode something that's 1408 00:59:35,390 --> 00:59:33,420 always held me back from making more use 1409 00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:35,400 of my apple pencil for notes is the 1410 00:59:39,049 --> 00:59:37,200 filling across the screen it still felt 1411 00:59:40,609 --> 00:59:39,059 like I'm writing on glass especially 1412 00:59:43,010 --> 00:59:40,619 when scribbling notes for podcast 1413 00:59:45,170 --> 00:59:43,020 episodes paper like have very much 1414 00:59:46,690 --> 00:59:45,180 changed how I use my existing iPad and 1415 00:59:48,950 --> 00:59:46,700 it's giving it a new lease of life 1416 00:59:50,870 --> 00:59:48,960 pay-per-like is perfect for anyone who 1417 00:59:52,910 --> 00:59:50,880 draws in writes using an iPad and an 1418 00:59:55,430 --> 00:59:52,920 apple pencil the surface of the paper 1419 00:59:57,230 --> 00:59:55,440 light is coated using Nano dots tiny 1420 00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:57,240 microbeads are designed to add Superior 1421 01:00:01,430 --> 00:59:59,040 stroke Precision when you drag the apple 1422 01:00:03,230 --> 01:00:01,440 pencil across the screen every paper 1423 01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:03,240 light comes in a set of two so you'll 1424 01:00:07,609 --> 01:00:05,760 always have a spare in case you need I'm 1425 01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:07,619 no artist either but my kids certainly 1426 01:00:10,609 --> 01:00:09,119 approve of using it to draw in little 1427 01:00:13,069 --> 01:00:10,619 and I can have peace of mind the screen 1428 01:00:14,950 --> 01:00:13,079 underneath is completely protected to 1429 01:00:17,930 --> 01:00:14,960 pick up your paper like head over to 1430 01:00:20,450 --> 01:00:17,940 paperlike.com forward slash that UFO 1431 01:00:22,849 --> 01:00:20,460 click buy paper like and select your 1432 01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:22,859 iPad size from now until the end of 1433 01:00:26,930 --> 01:00:24,720 January paperlike is also including 1434 01:00:29,569 --> 01:00:26,940 their digital Pro planner bundle at no 1435 01:00:31,970 --> 01:00:29,579 extra cost to every order placed through 1436 01:00:33,890 --> 01:00:31,980 the paper like store plus shipping is 1437 01:00:35,530 --> 01:00:33,900 completely free ready to do more with 1438 01:00:38,690 --> 01:00:35,540 your iPad then head over to 1439 01:00:40,030 --> 01:00:38,700 paperlike.com forward slash that UFO to 1440 01:00:42,349 --> 01:00:40,040 get started 1441 01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:42,359 that's a brilliant question you know I 1442 01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:44,640 thought about that before 1443 01:00:51,650 --> 01:00:49,200 um my according to my opinion is that 1444 01:00:54,589 --> 01:00:51,660 people can't be too naive that means 1445 01:00:57,829 --> 01:00:54,599 they can't always count down on like a 1446 01:00:59,990 --> 01:00:57,839 fully 100 countdown on those beings 1447 01:01:01,670 --> 01:01:00,000 they may tell you you know one version 1448 01:01:03,109 --> 01:01:01,680 of the story but they do things 1449 01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:03,119 differently I mean 1450 01:01:09,230 --> 01:01:06,240 from my perspective 1451 01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:09,240 whatever happened on this planet those 1452 01:01:14,890 --> 01:01:12,000 beings may have certain control of the 1453 01:01:17,450 --> 01:01:14,900 situation but they can't really 1454 01:01:19,130 --> 01:01:17,460 micromanage others so many different 1455 01:01:22,069 --> 01:01:19,140 situations 1456 01:01:24,829 --> 01:01:22,079 so yes they may have some level of 1457 01:01:27,589 --> 01:01:24,839 interference to try to stop this stop 1458 01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:27,599 that but that doesn't mean they have 100 1459 01:01:32,569 --> 01:01:30,480 full control on the world's major 1460 01:01:35,930 --> 01:01:32,579 governments you know what they can do 1461 01:01:39,109 --> 01:01:35,940 they can't do so they can only mitigate 1462 01:01:41,809 --> 01:01:39,119 I use the word of mitigate the risk for 1463 01:01:45,109 --> 01:01:41,819 Humanity but that doesn't mean they are 1464 01:01:47,630 --> 01:01:45,119 able to stop all the negativity happens 1465 01:01:50,690 --> 01:01:47,640 on this planet right now so people need 1466 01:01:53,329 --> 01:01:50,700 to you know not see the reality show but 1467 01:01:55,010 --> 01:01:53,339 be real you know what alien can do what 1468 01:01:57,470 --> 01:01:55,020 they can't do 1469 01:01:59,450 --> 01:01:57,480 um even my like Spirit guides you know 1470 01:02:01,309 --> 01:01:59,460 they may tell me blah blah blah this and 1471 01:02:04,549 --> 01:02:01,319 that but that doesn't mean everything 1472 01:02:07,130 --> 01:02:04,559 will be fulfilled 100 so you always need 1473 01:02:09,410 --> 01:02:07,140 to do a discernment check you know you 1474 01:02:11,230 --> 01:02:09,420 believe half and you know always give 1475 01:02:14,990 --> 01:02:11,240 yourself you know 1476 01:02:16,549 --> 01:02:15,000 a role to think about it also so yeah 1477 01:02:18,410 --> 01:02:16,559 there were some really good questions 1478 01:02:20,329 --> 01:02:18,420 there I do have a couple more but we'll 1479 01:02:21,829 --> 01:02:20,339 save those for the patreon section that 1480 01:02:24,109 --> 01:02:21,839 I'll go through a show just when we 1481 01:02:25,730 --> 01:02:24,119 finish up show before we wrap up the 1482 01:02:28,010 --> 01:02:25,740 main portion of the program I always 1483 01:02:29,930 --> 01:02:28,020 like to do a quick fire round and just 1484 01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:29,940 ask your opinion just a few words or a 1485 01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:31,680 little bit more if you want on a few 1486 01:02:34,730 --> 01:02:33,359 different topics that we've not talked 1487 01:02:36,650 --> 01:02:34,740 about yet if you don't mind and if you 1488 01:02:38,690 --> 01:02:36,660 don't have any particular opinion we can 1489 01:02:41,210 --> 01:02:38,700 move on from it is that okay 1490 01:02:43,549 --> 01:02:41,220 yeah sure 1491 01:02:45,950 --> 01:02:43,559 um what are your thoughts on ce5 as a 1492 01:02:51,289 --> 01:02:47,510 it's actually it's a very powerful 1493 01:02:53,150 --> 01:02:51,299 initiation uh but the downside about ce5 1494 01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:53,160 is you need to make sure everybody in 1495 01:02:58,670 --> 01:02:55,920 your group have a pure good intention 1496 01:03:00,289 --> 01:02:58,680 without any fear so what I heard is some 1497 01:03:02,510 --> 01:03:00,299 people if they don't reach certain 1498 01:03:05,630 --> 01:03:02,520 Consciousness level or if they are not 1499 01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:05,640 purely positive you may not able to 1500 01:03:10,849 --> 01:03:08,160 summon Accra so making sure that you 1501 01:03:14,270 --> 01:03:10,859 have the proper Gathering so I do really 1502 01:03:16,210 --> 01:03:14,280 support the ce5 activities actually I 1503 01:03:19,870 --> 01:03:16,220 think it's actually a really good way to 1504 01:03:31,130 --> 01:03:19,880 initiate with certain beings yes 1505 01:03:35,150 --> 01:03:33,349 certain politicians will play dumb there 1506 01:03:36,950 --> 01:03:35,160 well what do you mean by UFO but if you 1507 01:03:39,710 --> 01:03:36,960 say UAP they have to answer your 1508 01:03:41,630 --> 01:03:39,720 questions now yes that's a very good 1509 01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:41,640 point yep it's a fairly good point and 1510 01:03:54,650 --> 01:03:50,470 wow that's uh that's a big topic 1511 01:03:57,890 --> 01:03:54,660 disclosure for me is multiple big events 1512 01:04:01,190 --> 01:03:57,900 happening simultaneously on the same day 1513 01:04:02,990 --> 01:04:01,200 this closure means you know we may have 1514 01:04:05,150 --> 01:04:03,000 a Kundalini Awakening means what's 1515 01:04:07,309 --> 01:04:05,160 happening in the past so we recall 1516 01:04:10,430 --> 01:04:07,319 everything happening in our life like a 1517 01:04:13,190 --> 01:04:10,440 quick live review big uh disclosure also 1518 01:04:14,930 --> 01:04:13,200 means once you fully awakened you can 1519 01:04:16,789 --> 01:04:14,940 see through all the that means 1520 01:04:19,549 --> 01:04:16,799 we will see what's going on in the world 1521 01:04:23,150 --> 01:04:19,559 so this closure is actually able to 1522 01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:23,160 trigger quite a few major events uh this 1523 01:04:28,250 --> 01:04:26,400 culture also means that UFO landing for 1524 01:04:31,370 --> 01:04:28,260 disclosure so this culture means quite a 1525 01:04:33,950 --> 01:04:31,380 few things and I do believe in all those 1526 01:04:37,309 --> 01:04:33,960 major events May happen simultaneously 1527 01:04:40,010 --> 01:04:37,319 at the same time at the same day yeah 1528 01:04:42,890 --> 01:04:40,020 so there are two messages that I want to 1529 01:04:44,809 --> 01:04:42,900 share to the viewers we when we talk 1530 01:04:47,450 --> 01:04:44,819 about the ufology because everybody like 1531 01:04:50,750 --> 01:04:47,460 you and I have a different acco is like 1532 01:04:52,849 --> 01:04:50,760 uh like a screenplay or you know how we 1533 01:04:54,589 --> 01:04:52,859 have a blueprint our life what we want 1534 01:04:56,089 --> 01:04:54,599 to experience some people may want to 1535 01:04:58,190 --> 01:04:56,099 have a Content modalities through 1536 01:05:00,109 --> 01:04:58,200 religion you know like us could be 1537 01:05:02,809 --> 01:05:00,119 euphorology other people may have I 1538 01:05:05,630 --> 01:05:02,819 don't know like a shaman experience so 1539 01:05:08,210 --> 01:05:05,640 everybody is quite different so I think 1540 01:05:10,370 --> 01:05:08,220 it's very important for people not to 1541 01:05:12,289 --> 01:05:10,380 just focus on the phenomenon itself you 1542 01:05:14,930 --> 01:05:12,299 know there's a light in the sky with it 1543 01:05:18,410 --> 01:05:14,940 being localized human oil animal like I 1544 01:05:21,049 --> 01:05:18,420 don't care it's it's all all roads leads 1545 01:05:23,510 --> 01:05:21,059 to Rome that call is for people who have 1546 01:05:26,270 --> 01:05:23,520 a Consciousness Awakening so what I've 1547 01:05:29,450 --> 01:05:26,280 been told when I was on a craft they 1548 01:05:32,089 --> 01:05:29,460 also mentioned to me that you know you 1549 01:05:34,730 --> 01:05:32,099 can't just stop evolving you have to 1550 01:05:36,349 --> 01:05:34,740 have life transformation so every time 1551 01:05:38,450 --> 01:05:36,359 when I share with my Chinese view I 1552 01:05:41,450 --> 01:05:38,460 always share the same messages now you 1553 01:05:43,250 --> 01:05:41,460 have no idea how stubborn I was a few 1554 01:05:46,190 --> 01:05:43,260 years ago totally different person 1555 01:05:48,109 --> 01:05:46,200 compared with now so for the people who 1556 01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:48,119 actually in the community I won't let 1557 01:05:53,150 --> 01:05:50,640 you know that whatever you know in this 1558 01:05:55,309 --> 01:05:53,160 entire Community the UF or the craft 1559 01:05:59,030 --> 01:05:55,319 doesn't matter the most important thing 1560 01:06:02,030 --> 01:05:59,040 is how you actually take the message use 1561 01:06:05,690 --> 01:06:02,040 for yourself to have life transformation 1562 01:06:08,329 --> 01:06:05,700 what is ET encounter mean to you that's 1563 01:06:10,970 --> 01:06:08,339 the core how you're going to use that to 1564 01:06:12,650 --> 01:06:10,980 benefit for yourself so I think that's I 1565 01:06:14,450 --> 01:06:12,660 just want to leave as a question for the 1566 01:06:18,049 --> 01:06:14,460 viewer to think about the second message 1567 01:06:20,690 --> 01:06:18,059 I want to share is the Chinese ufology 1568 01:06:24,069 --> 01:06:20,700 Community is very special what actually 1569 01:06:26,990 --> 01:06:24,079 found is how Chinese 1570 01:06:29,450 --> 01:06:27,000 personality traits or characters because 1571 01:06:32,809 --> 01:06:29,460 we are from you know a communist country 1572 01:06:34,730 --> 01:06:32,819 and the so our ideology we are thinking 1573 01:06:36,410 --> 01:06:34,740 and even Japanese I know they are not 1574 01:06:39,049 --> 01:06:36,420 communist country but you know Japanese 1575 01:06:41,270 --> 01:06:39,059 or Koreans or thailands you know the 1576 01:06:42,770 --> 01:06:41,280 Thai people they are very different a 1577 01:06:45,890 --> 01:06:42,780 lot of people just focus on those people 1578 01:06:47,630 --> 01:06:45,900 like how those race because they have a 1579 01:06:49,450 --> 01:06:47,640 different ideology different culture 1580 01:06:53,390 --> 01:06:49,460 background they have a different 1581 01:06:55,670 --> 01:06:53,400 reactions towards their like experiences 1582 01:06:59,569 --> 01:06:55,680 I found this is a very fascinating field 1583 01:07:03,470 --> 01:06:59,579 to dive into and why am I incarnate as a 1584 01:07:05,870 --> 01:07:03,480 Chinese but you incarnate is you know a 1585 01:07:07,789 --> 01:07:05,880 British for example like what's that 1586 01:07:10,190 --> 01:07:07,799 mean for your sojourn it's very 1587 01:07:12,589 --> 01:07:10,200 different because I was you know from my 1588 01:07:15,049 --> 01:07:12,599 past incarnations I was Americans I was 1589 01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:15,059 Africans in this lifetime of Chinese so 1590 01:07:19,970 --> 01:07:17,520 what's that really mean for us us that's 1591 01:07:20,690 --> 01:07:19,980 more philosophical but also it's going 1592 01:07:22,130 --> 01:07:20,700 to 1593 01:07:24,829 --> 01:07:22,140 uh 1594 01:07:26,809 --> 01:07:24,839 have more Awakening awareness for our 1595 01:07:29,089 --> 01:07:26,819 soul level so I hope everybody learn our 1596 01:07:31,730 --> 01:07:29,099 life lessons properly that's the two 1597 01:07:33,170 --> 01:07:31,740 messages I want to share thanks 1598 01:07:35,089 --> 01:07:33,180 absolutely and I think that 1599 01:07:37,130 --> 01:07:35,099 open-mindedness is what people need in 1600 01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:37,140 this subject that you've got to listen 1601 01:07:41,210 --> 01:07:39,119 to everyone and everyone's opinion and 1602 01:07:42,770 --> 01:07:41,220 everyone's stories but you know go on 1603 01:07:45,230 --> 01:07:42,780 your own Journey make up your own mind 1604 01:07:47,210 --> 01:07:45,240 and just be prepared that you know your 1605 01:07:49,309 --> 01:07:47,220 opinion for me should always be fluid in 1606 01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:49,319 the subject as well because we don't 1607 01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:50,880 know everything and like you say as you 1608 01:07:55,250 --> 01:07:53,039 move along whether it's this life or the 1609 01:07:56,809 --> 01:07:55,260 next or whatever happens next it's going 1610 01:08:00,049 --> 01:07:56,819 to be a different experience for you as 1611 01:08:01,609 --> 01:08:00,059 well now how can people follow you and 1612 01:08:04,970 --> 01:08:01,619 get in touch with you 1613 01:08:08,410 --> 01:08:04,980 sure they can add me on Facebook so just 1614 01:08:11,569 --> 01:08:08,420 Facebook search me Xiao ma shouse 1615 01:08:14,089 --> 01:08:11,579 s-h-a-o last name is ma M.A they can 1616 01:08:17,650 --> 01:08:14,099 found me from Facebook at me or just 1617 01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:17,660 email me my email address is shell 1618 01:08:30,590 --> 01:08:26,990 um yeah email me or add me on Facebook I 1619 01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:30,600 can be in touch and feel free to send me 1620 01:08:34,729 --> 01:08:32,640 any questions shout out a few more 1621 01:08:36,410 --> 01:08:34,739 questions for you now first off you 1622 01:08:39,169 --> 01:08:36,420 mentioned earlier some of your your 1623 01:08:42,349 --> 01:08:39,179 favorite cases is there any particular 1624 01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:42,359 piece of evidence or video footage that 1625 01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:45,120 you really like when it comes to to UFOs 1626 01:08:48,349 --> 01:08:46,799 you've obviously had your own experience 1627 01:08:50,930 --> 01:08:48,359 but what's your favorite piece of 1628 01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:50,940 evidence oh my God I wish I could just 1629 01:08:56,090 --> 01:08:53,040 get it so I'm prepared I've got a video 1630 01:08:58,010 --> 01:08:56,100 clip that I want to share and it's just 1631 01:09:00,349 --> 01:08:58,020 so clear could I just send it to you by 1632 01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:00,359 email maybe you can just link that video 1633 01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:04,080 into your podcast or people I will yeah 1634 01:09:08,930 --> 01:09:06,239 I will yeah yeah it's it's a very 1635 01:09:12,590 --> 01:09:08,940 fascinating it's a triangular craft show 1636 01:09:14,329 --> 01:09:12,600 you on top of you know Shanghai CBD uh 1637 01:09:16,970 --> 01:09:14,339 yeah it's a fascinating and in terms of 1638 01:09:19,669 --> 01:09:16,980 cases I mentioned it's the Hondo airport 1639 01:09:22,249 --> 01:09:19,679 case because I do believe those beings 1640 01:09:24,169 --> 01:09:22,259 are landed they may have a treaty with 1641 01:09:26,749 --> 01:09:24,179 Chinese government and we don't the 1642 01:09:29,450 --> 01:09:26,759 detail which even if I know what can be 1643 01:09:31,970 --> 01:09:29,460 Shin or it's very sensitive topic so I 1644 01:09:34,309 --> 01:09:31,980 think people can dive into this and just 1645 01:09:36,050 --> 01:09:34,319 for your own info and the um 1646 01:09:38,450 --> 01:09:36,060 um asks you you know have quite a few 1647 01:09:40,729 --> 01:09:38,460 contacts in China with those ecologists 1648 01:09:44,030 --> 01:09:40,739 and the you know experiences I'm more 1649 01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:44,040 than happy to pass on their contact 1650 01:09:48,769 --> 01:09:46,319 details to you maybe they can be your 1651 01:09:51,650 --> 01:09:48,779 next interview sort of people you know 1652 01:09:53,689 --> 01:09:51,660 you can ask them in details yeah 1653 01:09:55,729 --> 01:09:53,699 please because it's always nice to have 1654 01:09:58,010 --> 01:09:55,739 that breadth of Scorpion here different 1655 01:10:01,250 --> 01:09:58,020 opinions and perspectives as well and 1656 01:10:03,530 --> 01:10:01,260 the the Chinese and the Asian world's 1657 01:10:05,090 --> 01:10:03,540 perspective on UFOs is different to that 1658 01:10:06,890 --> 01:10:05,100 of those in the west and it's 1659 01:10:09,050 --> 01:10:06,900 fascinating to hear that as well so yeah 1660 01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:09,060 please do that that would be good yeah 1661 01:10:14,150 --> 01:10:11,520 like the global phenomenons like jigsaw 1662 01:10:16,970 --> 01:10:14,160 Parcels we have to see each parcels and 1663 01:10:19,970 --> 01:10:16,980 parcel them up and you know I believe 1664 01:10:22,430 --> 01:10:19,980 that the disclosure movement from Asia 1665 01:10:25,310 --> 01:10:22,440 not just China could be Japan Korea 1666 01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:25,320 Thailand Singapore can be the next storm 1667 01:10:30,110 --> 01:10:28,320 of hype in our community because because 1668 01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:30,120 people heard all the news about what's 1669 01:10:35,149 --> 01:10:33,120 happening in North America in the USA so 1670 01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:35,159 people probably interested to know 1671 01:10:39,649 --> 01:10:36,960 what's happening in the Asia continent 1672 01:10:41,689 --> 01:10:39,659 in Africa you know we need to password 1673 01:10:43,729 --> 01:10:41,699 all those information the information 1674 01:10:45,950 --> 01:10:43,739 that going to come out from China and 1675 01:10:47,930 --> 01:10:45,960 the Japan and other places could be more 1676 01:10:50,330 --> 01:10:47,940 fascinating and interesting 1677 01:10:53,990 --> 01:10:50,340 you know could be more related to what's 1678 01:10:56,209 --> 01:10:54,000 going to happen in the next few years so 1679 01:10:58,970 --> 01:10:56,219 I just wish all the folks can pay 1680 01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:58,980 attention to Asia continents yeah 1681 01:11:02,570 --> 01:11:01,199 absolutely a few more less than our 1682 01:11:03,709 --> 01:11:02,580 questions we had then I won't read out 1683 01:11:05,149 --> 01:11:03,719 the names because that we have copied 1684 01:11:06,770 --> 01:11:05,159 and pasted them that they're down here 1685 01:11:07,790 --> 01:11:06,780 but if you're listening you'll know who 1686 01:11:09,770 --> 01:11:07,800 you are 1687 01:11:12,830 --> 01:11:09,780 um so do you have any thoughts on early 1688 01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:12,840 civilized man being wiped out by global 1689 01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:15,120 apocalyptic events 1690 01:11:20,570 --> 01:11:18,080 um man's presence predates our early 1691 01:11:22,850 --> 01:11:20,580 archaeological finds so any thoughts on 1692 01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:22,860 early apocalyptic events you mentioned 1693 01:11:27,530 --> 01:11:25,440 Atlantis so at some point that's that's 1694 01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:27,540 gone or disappeared potentially as we 1695 01:11:30,610 --> 01:11:29,280 know but anything else like that you've 1696 01:11:34,130 --> 01:11:30,620 got thoughts on 1697 01:11:37,850 --> 01:11:34,140 uh yeah I heard about the that you know 1698 01:11:40,729 --> 01:11:37,860 uh prior to Atlantis we had quite a few 1699 01:11:42,649 --> 01:11:40,739 high-level civilizations you know what I 1700 01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:42,659 heard is it will be the first one was 1701 01:11:48,290 --> 01:11:46,080 destroyed by you know uh uh leader right 1702 01:11:50,930 --> 01:11:48,300 you know like dinosaurs and then for 1703 01:11:54,410 --> 01:11:50,940 Atlantis could be a great flood an 1704 01:11:56,810 --> 01:11:54,420 earthquake and that's what I heard but 1705 01:12:00,169 --> 01:11:56,820 again I have to be honest I don't have 1706 01:12:03,410 --> 01:12:00,179 too much research information or inside 1707 01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:03,420 of you about you know Atlantis so I'd 1708 01:12:07,850 --> 01:12:05,520 rather be humble and say what I know 1709 01:12:10,070 --> 01:12:07,860 what I don't know so sorry that's how 1710 01:12:11,450 --> 01:12:10,080 much I can share about Atlantis no 1711 01:12:15,470 --> 01:12:11,460 that's 1712 01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:15,480 experiences that you talked about 1713 01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:18,000 earlier you mentioned um various 1714 01:12:22,550 --> 01:12:19,920 different contacts with different beings 1715 01:12:24,110 --> 01:12:22,560 and realities and entities you touched 1716 01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:24,120 on just before and we hadn't mentioned 1717 01:12:28,010 --> 01:12:26,640 that you're being inside of a craft can 1718 01:12:29,930 --> 01:12:28,020 you talk a little bit about that 1719 01:12:31,010 --> 01:12:29,940 experience what it was like and what you 1720 01:12:33,709 --> 01:12:31,020 remember 1721 01:12:36,830 --> 01:12:33,719 there are so many different beings that 1722 01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:36,840 I have met the biggest lesson I have 1723 01:12:42,950 --> 01:12:39,840 learned is we uh how I see this 1724 01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:42,960 phenomena and Andy is that we're living 1725 01:12:48,410 --> 01:12:46,320 in a galactic Zone you know you got 1726 01:12:51,169 --> 01:12:48,420 earlier you know you know got a humanoid 1727 01:12:53,090 --> 01:12:51,179 looking like you know beings and not 1728 01:12:55,790 --> 01:12:53,100 just like humanoid not just nordics 1729 01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:55,800 there are some Asian lookings you know 1730 01:13:01,669 --> 01:12:59,040 the the African looking beans you know 1731 01:13:03,470 --> 01:13:01,679 very much like human being look uh and 1732 01:13:06,350 --> 01:13:03,480 also you got you know the tall beings 1733 01:13:09,530 --> 01:13:06,360 you know the animal like or could be you 1734 01:13:12,770 --> 01:13:09,540 know insect toy beans so we really are 1735 01:13:15,470 --> 01:13:12,780 living this Galactic Zoom so uh so I met 1736 01:13:17,689 --> 01:13:15,480 all sorts of beings the biggest lesson 1737 01:13:22,610 --> 01:13:17,699 I've learned is 1738 01:13:25,370 --> 01:13:22,620 we have to open our mind that means they 1739 01:13:28,189 --> 01:13:25,380 are all our teachers they have much 1740 01:13:29,990 --> 01:13:28,199 Advance the way of thinking you know 1741 01:13:32,510 --> 01:13:30,000 technology not just technology they can 1742 01:13:36,410 --> 01:13:32,520 share with us so don't just narrow 1743 01:13:39,770 --> 01:13:36,420 yourself down like I only like pleadians 1744 01:13:42,890 --> 01:13:39,780 the Nordic looking that's too narrow no 1745 01:13:44,510 --> 01:13:42,900 too blocked you need to open up say you 1746 01:13:47,750 --> 01:13:44,520 know I accept the content experience 1747 01:13:50,390 --> 01:13:47,760 from all sorts of being as long as they 1748 01:13:52,850 --> 01:13:50,400 are positive for my highest good and 1749 01:13:55,550 --> 01:13:52,860 that's how we actually can get and the 1750 01:13:57,410 --> 01:13:55,560 more support from those beings so the 1751 01:13:59,770 --> 01:13:57,420 answer is yes I met all sorts of beings 1752 01:14:02,330 --> 01:13:59,780 all sorts of looking you know from 1753 01:14:04,610 --> 01:14:02,340 interdimensional being extra dimensional 1754 01:14:07,970 --> 01:14:04,620 beings that being Beyond enamel space 1755 01:14:10,370 --> 01:14:07,980 the beings are more like Angelic looking 1756 01:14:13,669 --> 01:14:10,380 the positive negative the neutral ones 1757 01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:13,679 but the common messages I've got from 1758 01:14:20,990 --> 01:14:17,520 all those beings is that there is a big 1759 01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:21,000 event due to happen to our not just 1760 01:14:26,630 --> 01:14:24,480 Humanity but to this entire planet and I 1761 01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:26,640 do believe that they are preparing us 1762 01:14:32,630 --> 01:14:28,800 for it according to the latest 1763 01:14:35,090 --> 01:14:32,640 information Andy this event is so 1764 01:14:38,810 --> 01:14:35,100 imminent that might happen in the coming 1765 01:14:41,870 --> 01:14:38,820 months or years so uh just get us 1766 01:14:46,430 --> 01:14:43,729 and it is that to do with the fact that 1767 01:14:49,490 --> 01:14:46,440 we're going to have this initiation into 1768 01:14:51,530 --> 01:14:49,500 this almost Global or Intergalactic 1769 01:14:53,149 --> 01:14:51,540 society that it's an Awakening for 1770 01:14:55,310 --> 01:14:53,159 mankind do you think that's a sort of 1771 01:14:58,490 --> 01:14:55,320 event that they're preparing us for 1772 01:15:00,950 --> 01:14:58,500 I do believe so but I also have a quite 1773 01:15:02,870 --> 01:15:00,960 neutral information for everyone yes I 1774 01:15:05,390 --> 01:15:02,880 do believe that Earth is going through 1775 01:15:07,130 --> 01:15:05,400 the phrase of uh Ascension you know 1776 01:15:09,050 --> 01:15:07,140 people call it you know jumping the 1777 01:15:11,149 --> 01:15:09,060 paradigma people use the word of 1778 01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:11,159 Ascension and different words but you 1779 01:15:16,729 --> 01:15:12,960 know what I mean you know go into the 1780 01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:16,739 newers the the better version of us but 1781 01:15:23,450 --> 01:15:20,640 the message I've got is this not all the 1782 01:15:26,450 --> 01:15:23,460 population of this planet are going to 1783 01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:26,460 make the cut so that means they will 1784 01:15:32,350 --> 01:15:29,040 have for the lack of better word a 1785 01:15:35,510 --> 01:15:32,360 phrasal Purge so only certain population 1786 01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:35,520 can get to the next phrase but for the 1787 01:15:42,050 --> 01:15:37,199 remaining population 1788 01:15:44,990 --> 01:15:42,060 they have to go elsewhere so you know so 1789 01:15:48,169 --> 01:15:45,000 it's it's it's going to take 1790 01:15:49,729 --> 01:15:48,179 uh such an event to happen so we just 1791 01:15:52,370 --> 01:15:49,739 have to make sure that we can make the 1792 01:15:53,990 --> 01:15:52,380 cut and through your experiences what 1793 01:15:56,330 --> 01:15:54,000 have you learned and what do you now 1794 01:15:58,310 --> 01:15:56,340 think about the true nature of reality 1795 01:16:00,590 --> 01:15:58,320 and the nature of time and how it's 1796 01:16:03,590 --> 01:16:00,600 constructed 1797 01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:03,600 time is the interesting topic um what 1798 01:16:07,070 --> 01:16:05,280 I've been told is there's no past 1799 01:16:09,410 --> 01:16:07,080 present in the future everything happens 1800 01:16:13,250 --> 01:16:09,420 simultaneously 1801 01:16:15,530 --> 01:16:13,260 at one point but even said that it's 1802 01:16:18,830 --> 01:16:15,540 that's just what I know but that doesn't 1803 01:16:20,570 --> 01:16:18,840 mean I can fully understand 1804 01:16:22,970 --> 01:16:20,580 um according to my current level of 1805 01:16:25,610 --> 01:16:22,980 understanding of time I found it's hard 1806 01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:25,620 to comprehend that time is not linear 1807 01:16:31,130 --> 01:16:28,640 you know the time everything happens 1808 01:16:33,169 --> 01:16:31,140 to be sure thank you very much for 1809 01:16:36,850 --> 01:16:33,179 listening please remember to leave the 1810 01:16:41,209 --> 01:16:39,350 And subscribe that would all be very 1811 01:16:43,430 --> 01:16:41,219 much appreciated the shows are being 1812 01:16:45,410 --> 01:16:43,440 uploaded onto YouTube as we speak more 1813 01:16:48,050 --> 01:16:45,420 and more you can sign up at patreon.com 1814 01:16:50,570 --> 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